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  • #16
    So far (to my knowledge) the terrorist attempts have mainly been relatively high profile targets. Now imagine terrorists spread across the nation acting singly and independently. Shoot up a crowded high school basketball game here, blow up a church during services there, and if they did it randomly, with no pattern, and in small towns people would certainly be terrorized. Middle America considers terrorism something that happens in DC or New York. Terrorist attacks in Ames Iowa or Salina Kansas would leave the citizenry feeling no place is safe. And that is what those clowns strive for. I hope they never figure that out.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Tom S View Post
      So far (to my knowledge) the terrorist attempts have mainly been relatively high profile targets. Now imagine terrorists spread across the nation acting singly and independently. Shoot up a crowded high school basketball game here, blow up a church during services there, and if they did it randomly, with no pattern, and in small towns people would certainly be terrorized. Middle America considers terrorism something that happens in DC or New York. Terrorist attacks in Ames Iowa or Salina Kansas would leave the citizenry feeling no place is safe. And that is what those clowns strive for. I hope they never figure that out.
      Tom, I don't know where in MO you're from, but here in Smallberg, MO we are awake. I'm a bit surprised that the terrorists have refrained from random acts of terror for so long.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by zeplin View Post
        Tom, I don't know where in MO you're from, but here in Smallberg, MO we are awake. I'm a bit surprised that the terrorists have refrained from random acts of terror for so long.
        We've been preparing, from what I can tell, to stop a single bomber, bio-weapon distributor, or maybe one to three guys who want to go on a shooting spree. But what about a light infantry/commando style raid involving a larger number of well armed terrorists? Here's a scenario:

        It's the height of Black Friday at a large mall (like Mall of America/King of Prussia sized). Two school buses carrying 30 al-Qaeda operatives each pull up on two sides of the mall. Two helicopters drop 16 more operatives onto the roof. Half the raiders rush inside and begin massacring everyone in sight. The rest of the terrorists set up a parameter with machine gun emplacements, RPGs, and snipers.

        Obviously, I don't think any open carrying would be very effective against a situation like this. But, are there any LE agencies with the equipment and training to deal with such a situation? Or would they have to wait to get a company of Rangers and a Delta or SEAL Team to defuse this situation?
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        • #19
          This is a world fraught with peril, 98% of the populace is oblivious to it. If you are "awake" I would bet you are one of the 2%. If the numbers were reversed and only 2% of the citizenry was oblivious, we wouldn't need as many police as we seem to need at this time.
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          It is the same when you are stupid.

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          • #20
            Go ahead, skin it. Skin that smokewagon and see what happens.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by GangGreen712 View Post
              We've been preparing, from what I can tell, to stop a single bomber, bio-weapon distributor, or maybe one to three guys who want to go on a shooting spree. But what about a light infantry/commando style raid involving a larger number of well armed terrorists? Here's a scenario:

              It's the height of Black Friday at a large mall (like Mall of America/King of Prussia sized). Two school buses carrying 30 al-Qaeda operatives each pull up on two sides of the mall. Two helicopters drop 16 more operatives onto the roof. Half the raiders rush inside and begin massacring everyone in sight. The rest of the terrorists set up a parameter with machine gun emplacements, RPGs, and snipers.

              Obviously, I don't think any open carrying would be very effective against a situation like this. But, are there any LE agencies with the equipment and training to deal with such a situation? Or would they have to wait to get a company of Rangers and a Delta or SEAL Team to defuse this situation?
              Pretty sure in a situation like this, you would need some sort of military intervention. LEO's just don't have the necessary resources to take care of this. There's officers and everything, but are you guys trained to operate in scenario's like this? And the police still need to be there to help block off the area and maintain control outside of the hot area. It would be a long day thats for sure
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              • #22
                I say, let al Qaida by guns from us; however, I strongly suggest this particular model...



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                • #23
                  ~75 AQ operatives? Isn't that a little much? Even the 9/11 attacks ONLY had 19, and that was at the height of the organization. RPGs? I know my state is tougher than most, but I doubt that kind of firepower is able to bought in stores, Smuggled? Maybe, but enough for ~35 guys?

                  I by no means doubt the scenario. Mumbai didn't have that many people. That's a lot of intell, ICE, FBI , and local failure to get 75 guys in two buses and two helicopters.

                  Could 3-4 guys with a couple of rifles and pistols and homemade bombs do that plot, sure. Realistic, you bet.
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                  • #24
                    On the serious side, tactically, could they do it? Yes.

                    On the (let's call it) public relations side, should they do it? Likely not.

                    Tactically, it would probably succeed in places like NYC, Detroit, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago...any major city with Draconian gun laws keeping law-abiding folks from CCW...or, okay, let's include the open-carry crowd. But these big cities are also the bastions of liberal, lefty, so-called progressive thought, so AQ would be in danger of losing support...or "tolerance"...from the hand-wringing, blame America first types.

                    It would probably not succeed in flyover country, where CCW and even open-carry laws are less restrictive. And it might not get the media coverage these goat-boning, turds relish.

                    Regardless of what I've posted, should people let their guard down? No. They need to keep watch for suspicious activities from anyone in markets, malls, airports, schools, etc. and know where "cover" and exits are.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by M-11 View Post
                      M-11 encourages everyone who is not a terrorist to buy guns for terror attacks as well.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Kieth M. View Post
                        On the serious side, tactically, could they do it? Yes.

                        On the (let's call it) public relations side, should they do it? Likely not.

                        Tactically, it would probably succeed in places like NYC, Detroit, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago...any major city with Draconian gun laws keeping law-abiding folks from CCW...
                        Minor point of correction. Detroit (or Michigan) does not have draconian gun laws, many people have CPLs here. Our worst gun law is pistol registration.

                        In the suburbs where all the malls are people are MUCH more conservative and likely to be armed. Contrary to the image that is popularly held, Michigan is a pretty conservative state, getting more so by the month as Detroit depopulates.
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                        • #27
                          And I thought this was a peaceful religion
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Buffaloboy View Post
                            And I thought this was a peaceful religion
                            Just like Christianity? Oh wait....folks have been killing other folks in the name of a Christian God for a long damn time as well........

                            Just sayin'.......

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                            • #29
                              This world is so f'd up

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Buffaloboy View Post
                                And I thought this was a peaceful religion
                                Al Qaeda is not a religion. Osama bin Laden was not a follower of Islam, much like the Westboro "Baptist" church is not even remotely affiliated with the actual Baptist denomination.
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