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  • Um...He Is Pointing A GUN At You...

    Seriously, he is pointing at gun at you and you are still TELLING him to drop it???

  • #2
    wow! I will only say, I hope the shot officer is ok
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    • #3
      Just watched the video and it ****ed me off to no end. I hate to critique other officers but damn. The guy who repeatedly told him to drop the gun, when the gun was already being pointed at him, would have a very difficult time explaining to me why he should still have a job if i was chief. I mean that was really bad. Unreal.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by pujolsfan146 View Post
        Just watched the video and it ****ed me off to no end. I hate to critique other officers but damn. The guy who repeatedly told him to drop the gun, when the gun was already being pointed at him, would have a very difficult time explaining to me why he should still have a job if i was chief. I mean that was really bad. Unreal.
        Ill go as far to say that sometimes, by our OWN inactions we get ourselves hurt. This is a perfect example of such. This is not the Matrix. You can not dodge bullets. It is simply IMPOSSIBLE to react fast enough to someone who has sights on you and has pulled the trigger. That round is already down range. And Im almost certain, if that officer wouldnt have had backup already on the scene, he would be listed on the officer down memorial page. Simply unbelieveable.......

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        • #5
          In the "Squad Room", this video is posted and a forum member advised the officer was hesitant due to people in the bakery behind a-hole suspect.
          still.....
          very sad to hear him ask the other LEO to tell his wife and kids "I love them"....hopefully Im never in that position to make that request
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          • #6
            According to the other thread on this subject the officer (and he said something on the clip) was worried about the backstop. People in the bakery standing in the windows. The officer was worried about hitting them.

            I guess it was his call..............................he was very lucky
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            • #7
              Allegedly, the officer held fire because he did not have a clear background. There were people in the bakery behind the suspect. However, when shots were fired, that seemed to be the point where no-one cared about the background. Did anyone notice the rounds hitting the overheard above the suspect?
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              • #8
                A very morbid video to say the least! The worst part was obviously when the officer was shot but the part that got me was when the shot officer said to his fellow officer "tell my wife and kids I love em".

                I am not yet an officer and will not criticize the officer for his chosen actions but he definitely had a lot of restraint to not shoot the subject sooner.

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                • #9
                  Can't fault him for being concerned about the backdrop. He even put it over the air.

                  What the hell were people in the bakery thinking? The glass would stop the bullets? Dumb.

                  If I were an unarmed civ, I'd be heading for the back exit!

                  Whats the protocol on that? Is it officer discretion as to his personal safety v possibility of a backdrop issue?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Phouse70 View Post
                    Whats the protocol on that? Is it officer discretion as to his personal safety v possibility of a backdrop issue?
                    There is no "protocol" on that. It's a ****ty, no-win scenario. If he could move a bit to his right or left to try and clear his backdrop.. but we can't see what kind of cover options he's got from the footage. If there were really people in the shop behind the gunman, I can't fault his actions. Takes the balls of a lion to face a long gun at that range and hold fire.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Phouse70 View Post
                      Can't fault him for being concerned about the backdrop. He even put it over the air.

                      What the hell were people in the bakery thinking? The glass would stop the bullets? Dumb.

                      If I were an unarmed civ, I'd be heading for the back exit!

                      Whats the protocol on that? Is it officer discretion as to his personal safety v possibility of a backdrop issue?
                      I was on a felony vehicle stop with a convenience store in my background. I had people walking without a care in the world directly behind the suspect while I had my gun pointed at him totally ignoring me and the situation. All they were concerned about was getting inside to get their gas pump started.

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                      • #12
                        He lost his eye. There is an interview video on Policeone.com

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
                          According to the other thread on this subject the officer (and he said something on the clip) was worried about the backstop. People in the bakery standing in the windows. The officer was worried about hitting them.

                          I guess it was his call..............................he was very lucky
                          The backstop?? He was already pointing a gun at officers. How much more does one need? He shot, they returned fire. Unfourtunately, sometimes those are risks that sometimes must be taken to ensure self preservation.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by FlyingPig1 View Post
                            I was on a felony vehicle stop with a convenience store in my background. I had people walking without a care in the world directly behind the suspect while I had my gun pointed at him totally ignoring me and the situation. All they were concerned about was getting inside to get their gas pump started.
                            In urban areas you see this quite often. I don't know if its an ignorance of people realizing the danger of the situation or a natural human need to want to see whats going on, especially when seeing the police have someone at gun point. Maybe a combination of both. Even after yelling at people to leave they still want to stand around to watch with the mentality this is America and I can stand where I want too. Could also be the need to want to watch the police shoot someone in self defense so they have a shot at being in the media either condemning the officer or stating they had no choice. Usually its the condemning the officer that the media portrays.

                            Hopefully the officer has a quick recovery.

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                            • #15
                              I heard his interview on the Michael Berry show yesterday and he was talking about the fear of hitting the people in the bakery. I admire his concern, but eff that, if some dude is pointing a shotgun at me I'm either unloading on him, or ducking for cover, don't care if there's a busload of nuns behind him.

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