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    I was browsing the my local news site and came up on this story. I got to admire the kid's intentions, but do you think it's a good idea? Walking around in uniform carrying pepper spray in dangerous parts of town? Would you as a LEO consider him your other set of eyes and ears or see someone who puts himself in danger?


    http://renton.komonews.com/news/comm...ternoon/632870

    [COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"]For as long as he can remember, Forrest Hagerman has always wanted to be a police officer.

    The 16-year-old Liberty High School sophomore can’t wait until he’s old enough to join the force, but until that day comes, he’ll make it his mission to fight crime any way that he can.

    Unlike Seattle, Renton doesn’t have Police Explorer Program*where kids like Hagerman can wear a sn***y uniform and shadow cops on patrol. To make up for that glaring omission, Hagerman decided to start his own club, which he named Teens Against Crime.

    Hagerman’s modest goals with TAC are to reduce crime rates in Renton city parks,*stop drug use among teenagers, and*curb gang activity throughout the city.

    In order to do all*that, Hagerman—who calls himself the TAC Commander—will gather as many like-minded teenagers he can find to patrol local parks in some of the city’s seedier neighborhoods. The teens will have their own uniforms, they’ll carry pepper spray (if their parents allow it) and, if the state OKs it, they’ll even have their own retractable police batons.

    Now, you might think that local criminals would be nonplussed by the idea of teenagers watching their every move. You might even wonder if said criminals would try to hurt those teenagers in order to get them to give up their crime fighting dreams.

    Hagerman is thinking the same thing.

    “It’s a very active thought in my mind,” he said. “That’s one of the worst neighborhoods in Renton and they’re not police friendly.”

    In order to keep the chance of being physically harmed to a bare minimum, Hagerman and his cohorts will not intervene in any crimes they see. Because they won’t interfere, Hagerman said TAC should not be thought of as vigilantes.

    “Vigilante justice is when they’re out actually capturing criminals,” he said. “What we are doing is closer to being security guards, to observe and report to the police department.”

    Terri Vickers of the Renton Police Department is quick to point out that the city has no affiliation with TAC, but she doesn’t go as far as condemning the group.

    “We support community efforts to prevent crime, and encourage legitimate use of parks and public spaces … Anyone who observes suspicious or illegal activity is urged to call 9-1-1 to report it,” she said in an email.

    So far there are only two members of TAC, but Hagerman said his initial goal is to*gather a*force of 20. Right now he’s slogging through piles of paperwork and bureaucracy in order to become a state certified non-profit organization, which will enable him to collect tax free donations to pay for the uniforms and radios and pepper spray.

    No matter what happens or how many people want to join him, Hagerman said he’s committed to making his city a safer, more law-abiding place.

    “I really have a passion to be a police officer and to help our community out," he said.*"This is what I have a passion for and I don’t want to stand around and watch everything go to crap.”

    You can learn more about TAC at its website.[/COLOR]

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    Oh well, what can one say? The kid is opening himself up to some severe disappointment(s). I can only pray that he doesn't get hurt or killed trying to be a hero. Why is it that kids these days cannot seem to wait for life's preparation for adulthood? They seem to want everything now and make irrational decisions. The local sheriff or police chief should sit him down and counsel him of what could and might happen if he continues in his quest.
    Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence!

    [George Washington (1732 - 1799)]

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    • #3
      While I think the kid has good intentions he sounds like he has the makings of a whack job. He is going to get himself hurt. In CA he would not be allowed to carry either of the weapons he intends to carry. He should not be allowed to do this. I think community watch type groups are good but they should be low key. Instead of uniforms and radios and trying to play police. Why not just start a non-profit that promotes public safety by educating teenagers and encourages them to call 911 if they see crimes in progress in their daily lives but doesn't encourage them actively seeking it out. If you want to make the parks safer meet with the local PD and city to plan activities to happen in the park, pass out flyers to community members who live near parks to encourage them to report criminal activity.

      If explorers weren't bad enough in over stepping their grounds think of a group of them with no supervision and carrying weapons, the only thing this would ever equate to is FAIL, you couldn't even expect good results.

      12020(a)1PC covers the baton
      12403.7(d) PC- No person who is a minor shall purchase, possess, or use tear gas weapons. (Pepper spray)
      Originally Posted by VegasMetro
      maybe it’s me but I think a six pack and midget porn makes for good times?????

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      • #4
        Next he'll be wanting crown vics with blue lights haahahah

        “Vigilante justice is when they’re out actually capturing criminals,” he said. “What we are doing is closer to being security guards, to observe and report to the police department.”
        Unless you're 6'3 - 6'5 and muscular built, I wouldn't attempt that, you have more of a risk of getting jumped/beaten up, shot, stabbed or whatever else.. might as well just walk around with a big shirt that says I LOVE POLICE or I'M A SNITCH COME GET ME..

        Good intentions though.

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        • #5
          I would consider him to be a 'volunteer victim' in many of the areas of LA County.....that is a good way to end up very dead, very quickly.

          Not to mention the felony possession of the baton, which mtxpro already covered.
          The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

          "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

          "We fight not for glory; nor for wealth; nor honor, but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"

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          • #6
            Hmmmmm I was thinking he looks an awful lot like Taylor

            http://tacrenton.webs.com/commander.htm
            Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

            My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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            • #7
              He needs to work with the PD in establishing a neighborhood watch or something similar. I would hope that the city would try to channel the positive energy in a useful direction. He doesn't need to be an explorer or wear a uniform to make a difference in the neighborhood. He is asking for trouble.

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              • #8
                I wonder what "level 4 access" gets him. A key to his moms garage?


                Originally Posted by VegasMetro
                maybe it’s me but I think a six pack and midget porn makes for good times?????

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                • #9
                  Looks like someone has just a BIT too much free time on his hands.

                  And, both of them are in dire need of a haircut.
                  The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

                  "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

                  "We fight not for glory; nor for wealth; nor honor, but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"

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                  • #10
                    [/QUOTE]

                    Does he really think he's going to be able to stop anybody from doing anything being 14 years old and 100 lbs?
                    Everybody counts or no one counts.
                    -Harry Bosch



                    Some of you may remember that in my early days I was sort of a bleeding heart liberal. Then I became a man and put away childish things.
                    -Ronald Reagan

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                    • #11
                      The hell are you talking about Iowa? I don't have skater *** hair! If it was a little longer I wouldn't know if hes a girl or not..

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                      • #12
                        Is this really any different than senior citizens driving around in Crown Vics in uniforms? While the kid has good intentions, he needs to let off the accelerator a little bit. Don't come across overzealous. Pepper spray is ok, as long as he knows how to handle it and has been exposed to its effects so the blowback won't affect him as much. Scale back on the T.A.C. ID's a little. Those are a good idea so someone can't run around causing problems and calling themselves the T.A.C. IMO, what he should do is get with the local PD, and get tips from them, and work WITH them. They may even give them a police radio and a seperate channel to communicate with dispatch.

                        Scale down the overaggressiveness and work with the PD and this could be a good thing.
                        I yell "PIKACHU" before I tase someone.

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                        • #13
                          This ritard has his cell phone number listed on the site.. should I call in tips?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Taylor13 View Post
                            The hell are you talking about Iowa? I don't have skater *** hair! If it was a little longer I wouldn't know if hes a girl or not..
                            Sorry I couldn't resist , , ,
                            Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                            My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                            • #15
                              The intent is commendable. The end result could very well be tragic. As has been noted, this young man is in need of some serious counseling. At age 16, the first major obstacle this young man should face is his parents. He is still subject to their supervision and control, and they should exercise it forcefully and without compromise. That is, if they have any expectations of this young man actually seeing his 17th birthday.

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