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  • DAL
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    Maybe the mother would have preferred a Taser.

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  • Magic Matt
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    Originally posted by JasperST View Post
    God forbid that they start their own business. They'll pine for those days! They don't get rich but they seem to be doing pretty good around here. All the teachers I know live in much bigger houses. Even the single ones.
    My wife’s teacher pension will be 1.3% per year @ age 60, and as a 12 year teacher makes $40k…

    Teachers at the Middle school she worked last year would get into trouble for writing to many referrals, and this year, her elementary school like the middle, the principle takes the parents side against the teacher who is being unfair to little Tommy, he's the victim, the teacher is always wrong and if you don’t like it find another job…

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  • PeteBroccolo
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    To sum up:
    - clients:
    - - mom, teachers, students, and "Aidan";
    - Aidan:
    - - history of aggressive behaviour;
    - - started out aggressive on the way TO school;
    - - got WORSE at school;
    - - obtained a weapon-of-opportunity;
    - - edged his chosen weapon;
    - - devised a method to defeat (if only partially) OC spray;
    - - would not, or not emotionally capable of, abiding by calm direction;
    - Police:
    - - called in as Aidan progressed in his aggression;
    - - have dealt with him previously;
    - - MOST LIKELY tried to "talk" to Aidan;
    - - chose to NOT use a blunt-force-trauma-inducing defensive impact weapon;
    - - resolved the incidence without permanent physical damage to Aidan or anyone else.

    Coffee first, THEN we can all go home!

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  • JasperST
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    Originally posted by willowdared View Post
    I'm not sure where you live, but the majority of teachers do not make high salaries, nor do they have "sweet" pensions. They are also required by many school districts to continue their education...many require not just a teaching certificate, but bachelor's and master's degrees. They also spend their own money on school supplies, not to mention spend hours of their own time developing lesson plans, grading papers and helping struggling students.
    God forbid that they start their own business. They'll pine for those days! They don't get rich but they seem to be doing pretty good around here. All the teachers I know live in much bigger houses. Even the single ones.

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  • JasperST
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    It's a shame that with so many adults around the police had to be called. I would have liked to ask the mom how many whacks she gave the brat when she got him home. "None, you say? How's that working out?"

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  • OneAdam12
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    Sounds like a good test subject for this.
    http://www.thetotaltransformation.com

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  • Taylor13
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    This kid was playing with the teachers keys today at my kids school, and the teacher had pepper spray that "looked like a flash light" the room was evac'd, kids were coughing up blood 2 kids got sprayed and the teacher.. EMS was not called..

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  • willowdared
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    Originally posted by ryker View Post
    Your assuming every kid put into public school graduates and then moves on to become sucessfull members of society.

    Review the history of public education and know that doctors, lawyers, firemen etc etc was educated without massive amounts of public taxation to pay for plump teacher salaries and pensions. For what really amounts to public daycare while the parents are at work.

    My dad went to a one room school house-- compared to our local highschool which looks like a ski resort.

    I agree with you to a degree. However, I don't agree with how much I have to pay for kids to attend school and **** it away. Nor should I be forced to pay for teachers high salaries and sweet pensions.
    I'm not sure where you live, but the majority of teachers do not make high salaries, nor do they have "sweet" pensions. They are also required by many school districts to continue their education...many require not just a teaching certificate, but bachelor's and master's degrees. They also spend their own money on school supplies, not to mention spend hours of their own time developing lesson plans, grading papers and helping struggling students.

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  • redsox2010
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    This is a no win situation. The officer used OC and everyone said "why did he have topepper spray a second grader?!?!!?!?" If the officer went hands on and took the kid down, everyone would have said, "he's only a second grader! why did the officer need to 'throw' him to the ground. Couldn't he have just used his pepper spray or something?"

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  • Iowa #1603
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    Originally posted by PhilipCal View Post
    The idiot mom getting on Good Morning America is no mystery. The mainstream media never misses an opportunity to dump on the cops and give a retard her fifteen minutes of fame. Unless the current behavior trend is reversed,in less than ten years, Mom can cry to GMA how the brutal cops shot and killed her baby.
    I thought Vargas did a pretty good job with both mom and son this morning............................

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  • PhilipCal
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    The idiot mom getting on Good Morning America is no mystery. The mainstream media never misses an opportunity to dump on the cops and give a retard her fifteen minutes of fame. Unless the current behavior trend is reversed,in less than ten years, Mom can cry to GMA how the brutal cops shot and killed her baby.

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  • Justsaying
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    There is more to the story.

    Eight-year-old Aidan Elliott had thrown a TV and chairs at his Colorado elementary school and was trying to use a cart to bust through a door to an office where teachers and other students fled for safety.
    No one could calm the boy, not even the staff in a program for children with behavior problems like him. So they called police, who had intervened with Aidan twice before.
    Police found him with a foot-long piece of wood trim with a knife-like point in one hand and a cardboard box in the other.
    "Come get me, f-----," he said.
    When they couldn't calm him down, one squirted Aidan with pepper spray. He blocked it with the cardboard box.

    A second squirt hit the youngster in the side of the head, and down he went, according to an account of the Feb. 22 standoff in a police report first obtained by KUSA-TV.
    Aidan and his mother went on national talk shows on Wednesday to say using pepper spray on an unruly 8-year-old was too much.

    Police and officials at Glennon Heights Elementary in Lakewood, Colo., say it could've been worse.
    "Had the officers chosen to be hands-on with him, the potential for him getting some type of injury and, maybe even officers, would have been much higher," police spokesman Steve Davis said.
    "It was the best choice made," he said.

    Aidan started acting up while on the bus to school, the police report said. He began screaming and then continued after breakfast while throwing chairs at his teachers.
    "He was being very aggressive, very violent," said Melissa Reeves, the school district spokeswoman.
    There were eight students with Aidan in the classroom, Reeves said, and teachers removed them after he became violent. They barricaded themselves in an office, as he tried to bust in, Davis said.
    Aidan was swearing and shouting expletives at his teachers and threatening them, Davis said. He taunted police when they arrived.

    "I wanted to make something sharp, like if they came out, 'cause I was so mad at them," the boy said on NBC's "Today" show. "I was going to try to whack them with it."
    After hitting him with the second squirt, officers took Aidan outside for some fresh air to help dissipate the spray. Paramedics were treating his red, irritated face with cool water when his mother arrived.
    According to the report, Mandy Elliott asked her son what he did.
    When he told her he had been hit with pepper spray, she is quoted as saying, "Well, you probably deserved it."

    It wasn't the first time officers had been called to pacify Aidan, Davis said. They'd been able to talk him down in two other incidents.

    On Wednesday, Mandy Elliott said she wished authorities had chosen to talk him down. She also wanted police to get special training in dealing with children. Aidan has since transferred to another school.
    When asked about the pepper spray and what he did, Aidan said: "I kind of deserved it."
    ___


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/06...#ixzz1Imz4Xxat

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  • Redders
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    Originally posted by ryker View Post
    About 7 dollars an hour less than National LE average, that's what my pay looks like.

    LE serves the whole community. Public schools really only serve a small portion of the community. Those that don't have kids or those that pays for private school still must pay taxes into something they don't get equal benifit from.
    Hmmmm same as me.

    So should LE services be privatized as well as school systems? That way it would be fair?

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  • ryker
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    I'm sorry for the poltics on taxation- but yesterday my house payment increased 50.00 or 600.00/yr for increases to pay for schools. Not to mention the extra .01 sales tax primarly for the school. I've got to work over 9 days Each year to pay the increase in school taxes. Taxes for a system that I have no kids in. My parents and grandparents still pay property taxes. All three of my neighbors pays for schools and don't have kids.

    The public school taxation is massive! That's what got me irked. We buy used junk cars for patrol. Carry. Shotgun older than I am... Yet teachers roll it in. Weekends off. Holidays off. Summer months off.

    Again I'm sorry but the tax hike has me ticked off. Don't mind paying some amount but there has to be a line.

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  • ryker
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    About 7 dollars an hour less than National LE average, that's what my pay looks like.

    LE serves the whole community. Public schools really only serve a small portion of the community. Those that don't have kids or those that pays for private school still must pay taxes into something they don't get equal benifit from.

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