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    Always check your equipment on and off duty.

    http://www.itstactical.com/warcom/fi...al-discharges/

    Editor-in-chief’s note: We’d like to thank the anonymous individual who came forward with this important information and allowed us to get it out to everyone here at ITS Tactical.

    “What the hell was that?!?” she said. It took me a half a second to realize that my gun had just gone off…on my hip…in its holster. My wife and I had just finished breakfast at our favorite café and got into the car.
    Me being the passenger, I rotated my torso to the left to fasten my seatbelt like I always do. When I straightened again, my Glock 19 discharged, blowing a 9mm hole through my pants, underwear, the leather seat and bottom of the car’s door frame.
    The bullet nicked my hip, but the wound is nothing a bandage couldn’t cover. So what went wrong? Guns never go “Bang” all by themselves.
    After ensuring I wasn’t hemorrhaging profusely and didn’t have to make a dash for the hospital, I stayed seated in the car as my wife came around to my door and opened it. I undid my belt and slid the Galco JAK202 Slide Belt Holster, with the gun still in it, off my belt. Why it went off was immediately apparent.
    Accidental Discharge

    The trusty, comfortable, leather holster I had been using for a year and two weeks had done what a baseball glove does after lots of use; It got soft. This particular holster carries the pistol outside the waistband, but inside the belt. The belt slides through slots in the outer side of the holster.
    The problem stemmed from the leather on the inner side of the holster getting soft. A crease formed, which eventually was large enough to extend beyond the trigger. Manipulate the gun in just the wrong manner and this crease is no different than a finger on the trigger. Boom!
    I can’t say I didn’t know the crease had been formed in the holster. I trained myself to be sure that when holstering, to make sure the gun was fully in the holster, with the trigger protected. On this day, did I forget to do that when I holstered up? Did the leather finally get so soft that a combination of body movements and interference by the cushy leather seat move the Glock enough to create a situation where the trigger was engaged by the holster?
    I don’t think we’ll ever know for sure, but I’ll humbly admit to the former as the likely culprit. However, if it was the latter, then those of you who use this type of holster need to be aware of its limitations and the possibility of experiencing what I did.
    It might have been a very different story had the incident happened while we were dining. That bullet ricocheting off the concrete floor could have done untold damage and just as easily killed somebody. Fortunately nobody got hurt and damage to the car was minimal. It will be an interesting conversation with the insurance company to see if they’ll cover the repairs.
    Lessons Learned

    Holstering your gun can be just as important as drawing it. Make sure you pay attention when doing so. If your leather is getting soft and worn, be sure that it won’t interfere with your trigger or just replace it.
    The back of the slide and/or grip was being pushed downward into the leather holster…or the holster was being pushed upward with some force. My guess is the firearm was being pushed and the fold in the holster acted as a finger and depressed the Glock trigger safety.
    This truly brings home the importance of taking care of your equipment and ensuring it’s in proper working order. Hopefully you can learn from my situation and prevent an accident like this from happening to you.
    Editor-in-chief’s note: We’d like to thank the anonymous individual who came forward with this important information and allowed us to get it out to everyone here at ITS Tactical.
    Please share this with everyone you know that carries in a leather holster!
    "You can't handcuff me, I'm a college graduate!"
    (Smurfette)

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    I like the use of the chopstick

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    • #3
      Damn, I used to swear by Galco holsters. Looks like they're slipping in their manufacturing process. All of my Galco holsters are reinforced in the areas where they could sag as depicted in the photos.
      Getting shot hurts! Don't under estimate the power of live ammo. A .22LR can kill you! I personally feel that it's best to avoid being shot by any caliber. Your vest may stop the bullet, but you'll still get a nice bruise or other injury to remember the experience.

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      • #4
        I never liked those style of holsters (no thumb or finger actuated retention device). But would've never thought they could do something like that. Talk about close call!

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        • #5
          Here is what happened to a friend of mine.

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          • #6
            ^^^^ HOLY H-E-doulble hockey sticks !!!!!! i bet that smarts

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            • #7
              That's why people also need to invest and get a good holster and when necessary, replace the damn holster to new one.

              Luckily no one was killed over it.

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              • #8
                This is one for those "purest" that say there is no such thing as a Accidental Discharge----only Negligent Discharges. No way in hades that can be called negligent.

                Luck man---go buy a Lotto Ticket.
                Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                • #9
                  Good post! Thank you ARSONCOP. After thought: Doesn't the Glock have a safety? Why wasn't it ON?
                  Last edited by SgtCHP; 04-01-2011, 05:24 PM.
                  Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence!

                  [George Washington (1732 - 1799)]

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                  • #10
                    Kydex please.......

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                    • #11
                      I'm just glad he didn't hit an artery and lived to write this warning.

                      I'll be using a kydex IWB like SuperTuck from now on.
                      "If the police have to come get you, they're bringing an @$$ kicking with them!"
                      -Chris Rock

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
                        This is one for those "purest" that say there is no such thing as a Accidental Discharge----only Negligent Discharges. No way in hades that can be called negligent.

                        Luck man---go buy a Lotto Ticket.
                        Isn't negligent to not use a better holster ? Or get a gun that has a grip safety ?

                        Bill
                        Just pay your dues, and be quiet :-)

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                        • #13
                          Its negligent in my book, how about inspecting your damn holster once in a while?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by willbird View Post
                            Isn't negligent to not use a better holster ? Or get a gun that has a grip safety ?

                            Bill
                            Additional safeties won't necessarily have prevented this. Proper firearms handling and periodic inspection of your gear would have greatly minimized the probability of this incident happening. The man admits to not ensuring that the firearm was properly seated in the holster as he normally would. Many times we alter the way we do things, most times things turn out OK. Other times disaster will strike when you least expect it.
                            Getting shot hurts! Don't under estimate the power of live ammo. A .22LR can kill you! I personally feel that it's best to avoid being shot by any caliber. Your vest may stop the bullet, but you'll still get a nice bruise or other injury to remember the experience.

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                            • #15
                              That had to sting a bit.....glad he didnt actually get the round in the leg.

                              At least that wasnt as public as the guy who ADed his 2" revolver (that was in the pocket of his shorts...no snide comments please) in the main hallway of the LA Convention Center.....during one of our tests for Sgt.....in front of about 1200 witnesses!
                              The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

                              "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

                              "We fight not for glory; nor for wealth; nor honor, but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"

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