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  • #31
    In the Metro Detroit area, with one of the largest Arab/muslim populations in the country I have yet to hear of a officer pushing to wear a head scarf of whatever. Have several arab or muslim women and men on the job here and really no issue.
    Most important thing you and your partner do today is make off duty roll call.

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    • #32
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      Originally posted by 11b101abn View Post
      Not intolerant. Islam is not compatible with the United States Constitution. Simple as that.

      ....and really, what matters more than that?
      people need permit, like CCW, to pray and wear bathrobes. since this kind of religion is dangerous. screw their allah. im intolerant american mutt. sorry.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by LaPlaca View Post
        So how long until this country is no more? This country is rotting from within. How many consessions are we to allow before there is no more standard? The standard today is you can tear down the very fabric that this country was founded on but dont DARE speak ill of someone elses country.

        Our uniforms were created for a reason.

        Uniform:

        u·ni·form (yn-fôrm)
        adj.
        1. Always the same, as in character or degree; unvarying.
        2. Conforming to one principle, standard, or rule; consistent.
        3. Being the same as or consonant with another or others.
        4. Unvaried in texture, color, or design.


        If you want to live in a third world nation there are many to chose from. Adopting the customs of failed nations is not what makes/made us strong. I for one am sick and friggin tired of 'immigrants' VOLUNTARILY coming to this country and trying to impose the beliefs, system of 'justice' and traditions of their failed homelands on the rest of us. If you want to be an American citizen then be an American. If you believe your homeland is so friggin spectacular then GO BACK TO IT! get rid of your little mexican flags, your iraq flags or the flag of whatever FAILED society you hail from and assimilate.

        If I failed at owning my own business Im not going to go into someone elses and demand it be ran like the one i just failed at.

        This crap is like going to an italian joint and demanding they put burritos on the menu. if you want a friggin burrito go to a mexican food joint. If you want to beat your wife, in violation of this countries laws, then go somewhere that allows you to beat down your spouse.

        if you dont/cant conform to the uniform poilices set in place then you dont need to be a cop, soldier or any other profession that requires the wear of a UNIFORM.


        amen. up here in maine, it's rare to see someone in bathrobe taking a stroll back then. most likely, they're only tourists. not staying. but now somailia and arabs started to popping up in some of bigger towns to stay. they really making a mess. im sick of their camel poop. fortunately, they're far from my town. grrrr!! yeah, i growled alot.
        Last edited by pfchell; 03-27-2011, 07:03 AM.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by pfchell View Post
          people need permit, like CCW, to pray and wear bathrobes. since this kind of religion is dangerous. screw their allah. im intolerant american mutt. sorry.
          No, you're just a moron, and probably the biggest ever on this forum. That says a lot.

          Maybe you should have gone to a Muslim school. Whatever public school you attended here in the U.S. didn't do the trick.


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          • #35
            Well, If I ever got pulled over by anyone in a turbin/hijabs.. Id would continue to drive my *** right to the bar!
            I cant ever see any police department allowing a cop to cover his face unless they are on a sting operation! Are there Muslims in LEO positions, yes.. but for what ever reason. . they keep the religion out of the job.. and honestly.. when im on the job.. I can't think of anyone ever talking about there religion or even myself discussing my religion..


            I agree on this statement also HEDP, and in ANY FIELD that uniform is the day!

            "I don't think you should be able to wear anything that drastically alters your appearance based on uniform standards. "

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            • #36
              Originally posted by FJDave View Post
              If the women are religious enough to wear a burka, they will NOT work outside of the home because their fathers or husbands will not give them permission. And if, per chance, they did become police officers, they could only talk to women....otherwise they would get stoned for talking to a man who is not a relative.

              Yeah, that would go far in today's American society.
              The Quran does not mention stoning as a punishment for any crime. Secondly, Sharia law prescribes stoning for adultery. It makes no mention of stoning a woman for talking to a male. Plus. Sharia law is not applicable in this country.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by 11b101abn View Post
                Not intolerant. Islam is not compatible with the United States Constitution. Simple as that.

                ....and really, what matters more than that?
                What religion does the constitution say it has to be compatible with? I didn't read in the first amendment that only specific religions were allowed.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by retired View Post
                  The Quran does not mention stoning as a punishment for any crime. Secondly, Sharia law prescribes stoning for adultery. It makes no mention of stoning a woman for talking to a male. Plus. Sharia law is not applicable in this country.
                  You are right....my bad. But some Islamic communities practice their own sharia law among themselves in every country they are in.
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                  Lord have mercy. You're about as slick as the business side of duct tape.
                  Originally posted by DAL
                  You are without doubt a void surrounded by a sphincter muscle.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by FJDave View Post
                    But some Islamic communities practice their own sharia law among themselves in every country they are in.
                    I wouldn't disagree with you on that, although I can't confirm it.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Monty Ealerman View Post
                      She understands that being a Peace Officer means she can't show religious bias or expect exceptional accommodation for her religion at work.
                      Too bad not all cops follow this. Its always nice to see coworkers try to talk people into going to church or scripture.

                      Man what a thread. Some of you are just plain ignorant *******s it seems. Western countries have been allowing Sikhs to serve in their military and police forces.






                      Obviously these two US. Army Sikh soldiers should receive less respect than their fellow soldiers:

                      http://www.army.mil/-images/2010/11/...-15-071136.jpg

                      http://www.army.mil/-images/2010/03/...-25-170351.jpg

                      What it comes down to is people being scared of what they don't understand. Its easy to just say no instead of learning.
                      Last edited by That Guy; 03-27-2011, 03:04 PM.
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                      • #41
                        In the Army pics, the first one is not wearing IBA like the rest are (there was one other Soldier also not wearing IBA), so that would lead me to believe he is in a support position, not a combat MOS. Besides, the first time he has to put on a gas mask he will know what a canary feels like. The second one is a Captain, also more than likely a chaplain or other support role. I am not saying they would not be good combat soldiers. But they are serving their country, and the Army has made allowances for their appearance.
                        Last edited by FJDave; 03-27-2011, 04:30 PM.
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                        Originally posted by Smurfette
                        Lord have mercy. You're about as slick as the business side of duct tape.
                        Originally posted by DAL
                        You are without doubt a void surrounded by a sphincter muscle.

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                        • #42
                          Captain Rattan is in the Health Services, Simran Preet Singh Lamba is in languages. Lamba completed basic training since he is enlisted.

                          "I was told there were two challenges to allow Sikhs in the military. The first was that we could not put the Kevlar helmet on our heads, which I do every day," the captain said. "The second thing was fitting the gas mask properly."

                          My uncle, who was in the Indian Army, said he had no problem with that while was engaged in jungle warfare. He said he put some Vaseline in his beard, which kept the ticks away, and it sealed every single time."
                          Rattan was able to wear his mask properly and create a seal. That is one of the hurdles the Sikhs are meeting. What do you think the Sikhs in the Indian Army do now and back in WWII? Just keel over and die? Point is it CAN be done. No to mention the religious vavlues of the Sihks should be welcomed as they are very similar of those of this country.
                          Disclaimer: The writer does not represent any organization, employer, entity or other individual. The views expressed are those only of the writer. In the case of a sarcastic, facetious, nonsensical, stirring-the-pot, controversial or devil's advocate-type post, the views expressed may not even reflect those of the writer [This sig stolen from Brickcop who stole it from Frank Booth].

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by LaPlaca View Post
                            Ill remember you said that everytime is see the black socialist in the whitehouse reading from his teleprompter.
                            do you even know what a socialist is ???!!!!!!! do me a FAVOR and take the time to read what socialism actually is- Obama,is not a socialist, and BOTH republican and Democratic parties have used "psuedo socialist" policies to keep this country going !!! doubtful if you'll bother to educate yourself on what you claim to hate( hatred takes simple mindedness, and from your comments on "mooos' lums' ", you cowpaddy popper,it seems like you spew whatever ignorance you think will bash someone else! And since you're in TEXAS( where I'm sad to say I was born and raised til my teens- THANK GOD I ESCAPED from some of the backwards folks there and came to California,although some of the texas trash seems to drift west like stray dogs ), I "wonder La placa" if you'd say the same about officers of mexican ancestry , because the US is seeing violence on the border of mexico, and LEOS and civilians are being targeted??!!!?

                            Do me a favor, go and meet some muslims, sit down and ask them the truly dumb stuff you think they believe. I KNOW there are plenty of people of middle eastern descent in Texas, and they are practicing muslims. Go visit a mosque and ask to meet an Imam- MAYBE you can edcuate yourself, you stupid HICK. I'm sure in Texas, like here in "kalifornia" as you call it, you SWORE and oath to protect the community you serve- sometimes the people in that community DON'T look like you do, talk like you do, dress or believe as you do- but they require your protection and empathy. Remember that when you go out on patrol....
                            Last edited by DOAcop38; 03-27-2011, 07:12 PM.
                            "we're americans ! We don't quit because we're wrong, we just keep doing it wrong UNTIL it turns out Right"...

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by That Guy View Post
                              Too bad not all cops follow this. Its always nice to see coworkers try to talk people into going to church or scripture.

                              Man what a thread. Some of you are just plain ignorant *******s it seems. Western countries have been allowing Sikhs to serve in their military and police forces.


                              ....





                              Obviously these two US. Army Sikh soldiers should receive less respect than their fellow soldiers:

                              http://www.army.mil/-images/2010/11/...-15-071136.jpg

                              http://www.army.mil/-images/2010/03/...-25-170351.jpg

                              What it comes down to is people being scared of what they don't understand. Its easy to just say no instead of learning.
                              and those PCs( who happen to be faithful sikhs) would kill an atheist/Christian/Muslim, or SIKH BG just as DEAD to protect the general public- many of whom are probably NOT Sikhs!....
                              Last edited by DOAcop38; 03-27-2011, 07:10 PM.
                              "we're americans ! We don't quit because we're wrong, we just keep doing it wrong UNTIL it turns out Right"...

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by 11b101abn View Post
                                Not intolerant. Islam is not compatible with the United States Constitution. Simple as that.

                                ....and really, what matters more than that?
                                True christianity is NOT compatible with our laws either!!! Our founding fathers weren't even in agreement on what a "christian is" as they were a mix of Deists and from different - and antagonistic denominations, from states( colonies) that didn't like the other states !!!

                                I have a Kor'an , given as a "gift" from a lady who's family car I recovered during an arrest in '05( she insisted on giving me a reward- and YES she, was able to SPEAK without her husband controlling her !!!)- I said send me a Kor'an to learn from, and she did. I have yet to see anything in it that would go against the basic principals on which this nation is founded( barring the whoe sale MURDER of native americans, abuse of immigrants now and in the past,brutal slavery,and wars of aggression to protect financial interests now, and in the past- but then again, those also go against our founding principals) Please don't confuse the shar'ia with the actual Kor'an. thats like saying that the biased edicts of the catholic church supercede the bible- The Catholic church doesn't believe in the constitutional principals of United States per se, but you aren't touting that.

                                Statistically, Arab americans ,particularly Muslims, are a VERY small percentage of the CRIMINALS and problem communites in this nation. They tend to have largely successful families,financially and socially, and are very CONSERVATIVE in their voting trends and beliefs. God ( or as the muslims say , Allah) forbid you should take a bullet in the line of duty- it may be a MUSLIM doctor HARD trying to save your life.

                                Mighty funny that if Islam is NOT compatible with american values, soo many muslims are happy and well adjusted here- People can rant about "socialist Kalifornia" but we don't have any raving mad islamic fundamentalists running around killing and converting folks,BUT we have plenty of mosques! I'm ashamed to see you , "11b", posting something like this. I'd figure you'd know differently. the "south" has some of the best colleges in the nation, and southern folks tend to go to secondary schooling alot more than their nothern and even western counterparts- from that assumption, one would think they'd KNOW a little more about how the world actually works, when they turn off the rightwing radio garbage....
                                "we're americans ! We don't quit because we're wrong, we just keep doing it wrong UNTIL it turns out Right"...

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