Felony Assault Suspect Shot By CHP walks out of hospital

[SgtCHP]

Read this and see how ludicrous this incident has become. Since when is a suspect not placed under arrest and housed in the jail ward to recover? The whole community is at risk with this idiot on the loose.

Felony Suspect Shot By CHP walks out of hospital

[DAL]

When I started in law enforcement in 1969 and for several years thereafter, Santa Clara County Jail did not have a medical ward. Sick or injured prisoners had to be guarded by deputies at the hospital. I suspect Chico does not have a jail ward capable of treating gunshot wounds.

I have read several articles in which the practice described in the article was followed in various places. There also is a recent newspaper article on CDCR, which stated that the cost of guarding a prisoner at a hospital is $1 million per year. So, with the shortage of funds and no money for overtime, I am not surprised by what happened in this incident.

[Taylor13]

You'd be surprised how many people can seemingly walk out of a hospital after committing multiple crimes... then again you all probably know about this.

[willowdared]

Happened down here as well.

[nobodyjr]

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Suspect-Checks-Self-Out-of-Hospital-115283079.html

Almost the same thing just recently happened here. It's very common not to guard prisoners, and caused us a real black eye. Here the arresting agency is responsible for guarding the suspect until they are arraigned. Then the sheriff gets them and can be moved to a jail ward.

We (and apparently other agencies) have been letting people go for violent crimes left and right due to the costs. After our incident the policy changed and we now must guard people and I think some research was done... and we actually are not responsible for the costs. However the hospitals are lying when they say they can't call when someone is released, HIPPA laws have LE exemptions.

CHP should have been guarding him. But it sounds like the CPD investigators messed that up by wanting to take their time on the investigation and avoid the hospital costs.

[DAL]

Some agencies use reserves to guard prisoners for free in these situations.

[SCV-Sop]

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loca...115283079.html

..............However the hospitals are lying when they say they can't call when someone is released, HIPPA laws have LE exemptions.............

Yes, but they still have to be convinced to do so. Medical staff exist a work culture more regulated than yours. What you tell them they have to do is irrelevant to what their regulators tell them they have to do.

It truly will take an act of arresting and prosecuting them to convince them who is more right when there is a disagreement in what they have to do to expedite a job that is not theirs.

[LaPlaca]

from the linked article:

Crone is described as 5-foot-10 and about 190 pounds. He has a shaved head or close-cropped blond hair, and is heavily tattooed on his chest, arms and neck. Inking on his chest is the figure of a man with his eyes gazing up into Crone's face.


yeah..thats a cool tat. a dude looking into your eyes for all eternity...ghey.

[David Hineline]

So was there a deadly weapon?

[bigcop97]

We simply dont have staffing to guard people at the hospital for extended periods of time. We can get a judge to sign an order requiring the hospital to notify us prior to the person's release. We have had people in a hospital for weeks at a time after they were arrested. Its unrealistic to expect LE to guard that person 24 hours a day until they are released. Its just not feasible....

[DAL]

Why wasn't he put on watch while he was in the hospital?? Around here they would've stationed someone at the hospital to monitor and go from there.

Costs too much money.

[jannino]

I remember hearing Atlanta PD used private contractors to guard suspects at the hospital until they got a clean bill of health to be handed over to the SO

[LINY]

Some agencies use reserves to guard prisoners for free in these situations.

That is dangerous and stupid in my opinion, as someone who works in an Auxiliary/Reserve capacity.

[DAL]

That is dangerous and stupid in my opinion, as someone who works in an Auxiliary/Reserve capacity.

I doubt that you have the same level of training, the same authority, the same equipment or the same kind of experience as a reserve officer. Reserves and auxiliaries are not the same.