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  • #16
    THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS WON, shooter. I am formerly from that area, live near there for 26 years and went to all their games.

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    • #17
      quote:
      THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
      Who???
      "When you guys get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a *****."
      -Commanding General, 1st Marine Division

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      • #18


        [ 04-04-2003, 09:14 PM: Message edited by: Frank Booth ]

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        • #19
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          Originally posted by Mike Tx:
          Dale Earnhart has a street named after him.

          That ****ed me off...I noticed that no one seemed to care about the US soldiers that died during the same time period...doing their duty.

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          • #20
            The shuttle trajedy being replayed on TV over and over is undoubtedly one reason why it gets more attention than soldiers in Afganistan. In part it gets more coverage because they have a visual to use on TV.

            But another reason may be that the shuttle has become routine and seems so safe. They were even planning on sending another teacher on a mission. When an activity that seems safe, and represents the height of technological accomplishment, ends in disaster, it grabs our attention more.

            The death of soldiers in Afganistan, or wherever, is no less tragic and they are no less heroic. But, there are many more of them and casualties are expected in war. It isn't thought of as a safe activity. Therefore it is less unexpected. I do hope our govt takes better care of this next group of vets than they did after Gulf I.
            Paul

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            • #21
              For those who took exception to a street being named after Earnhardt, remember that was in his hometown. Most hometowns will name streets after local celebrities, whether the rest of the world knows them or not. Most cities also have streets named after major dignitaries, too. I think MLK leads the pack in that distinction. Kennedy would be close.

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              • #22
                LawDog....
                It wasn't so much the street being named after him then it was the nationwide attention and some of the over-the-top things that went on. We had a number of US soldiers that died doing their duties to protect us during the week that Earnhart was killed and they barely rated a few seconds on a newscast.
                I find that a sad commentary on our society.

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                • #23
                  I don't know about up there, but down here it got beaucoup attention because it was in Daytona (I'm less than an hour away) and the "Gator", an indie newspaper who sued over release of the pictures.

                  I think the attention shifted for a few reasons, but the biggest, I believe, is because it was something new and a celebrity was involved. There was some great video and it unfolded right in front of millions of fans, much like both shuttle disasters, which also made it more appealing to the mass media.

                  The soldiers, while still a great loss, didn't have the same "ummph".

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                  • #24
                    The soldiers were flying helicopters on a very dangerous training mission in Hawaii. They crashed and all were lost. Dale Earnhart dies about the same time, he had the best equipment money could buy, his children are wealthy, his wife is wealthy, and they will never want for anything.

                    The point of posting this is to say that while I would not take anything away from Earnhart, the soldiers that died that day were barely making minimum wage, they left behind infant children who will never know their father, and were most likely flying aircraft that needed repair. The public never even knew their names, nor apparently, do they care.

                    The street named after him I refer to was in Texas at the speedway.

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                    • #25
                      In my best John Wayne, humming in the background.

                      "You're wrong there!

                      They aren't forgotten because they haven't died.
                      They're living. Right out there.

                      And they'll keep on living as long as the Regiment lives.

                      They're faces may change, and the names.
                      But they are there.

                      They are the Regiment.

                      The Regular Army.

                      Now and Fifty years from now."

                      Seriously, the public may forget. But the soldiers that fought and died with them will never forget. And the new Privates that serve ten years from now will learn, and also won't forget.

                      And in the end that is all that matters.

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