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  • Sgt Lobster
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    Chiefy,

    Todays Sunday Torygraph (Telegraph)TV licences are going up by 4 quid to

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  • Chiefy_Brown
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    Soho I agree with you on Maggie THATCHER, her poll tax ideas were top notch as you say AND SO WAS SHE! I was very sad to hear what happened, the last time she gave a speech in public, how depressing, really

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    Originally posted by Soho bandit:
    Ok, screens - tv, get ya.
    Yes, we do have to pay a for a TV licence every year to fund the BBC which as Sig correctly states has no advertising. However, you still have to pay even if you pay to have cable or satelite TV, which a lot of people thing is wrong (including me)

    the TV licence has been

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  • ZalmanEmmes
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    Soho, Finally thank G-d, someone who appreciates a good leader when they're not there anymore and a moron like Blair and Livingstone are in control of the country and the Capital. I miss leaders like Thatcher and Reagan so much, and for all you Reagan fans out there, he's 92 today!

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  • Bill R
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    Of course you're right Sig. I can still dream though. I just realized something, they're starting the London congestion charge on a holiday. [Wink]

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  • Sig220Man
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Bill R:

    What do you think they'd think of the taxes we pay now? I'm glad they cut the ties but I wish we were only taxed at the rate that sparked the revolution.[/QUOTE]

    The big difference is that today we (as a collective group) voted in the politicians that have gotten us into this situation. In some ways we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

    That's far different than 230 years ago, when a King over 5,000 miles away did as he pleased.

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  • Bill R
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Sig220Man:
    Hey, that sounds just like what this country's forefathers said right before the Revolution...they even made Boston Harbor into the world's biggest tea kettle to celebrate [/QB]

    What do you think they'd think of the taxes we pay now? I'm glad they cut the ties but I wish we were only taxed at the rate that sparked the revolution.

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  • Sig220Man
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Soho bandit:
    but it just goes to show how the taxation system stinks over here.

    Hey, that sounds just like what this country's forefathers said right before the Revolution...they even made Boston Harbor into the world's biggest tea kettle to celebrate

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  • SB
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    Thatch rocked. She'd have been in Baghdad by now, asking where everyone else was.
    She had the right idea with the poll tax. All the crusties hated her and the idea, hence the rioting, but actually, it was a much fairer system then the council tax, which was bought in instead. In poll tax, the tax was worked out on houshold income, not house value, so a house with 2 full time working parents and a full time working son or daughter (over 18) would pay more then a family of 3 where only one parent works, which to me, sounds fair.
    I got a summons in the first year of the council tax when I was in the forces because I, along with a huge number of other servicemen refused to pay it. When we were sent summons forms we had to state why we didn't think we had to pay. We lived and worked on our base. The council didn't collect our waste, a private contractor paid by the MOD did. We didn't need the local police. We didn't need the local fire service either. In fact, the council couldn't come up with one thing that they provided from council tax that we either needed or didn't have provided anyway by the MOD. They still said we had to pay or they'd jail us for non payment. In the end our CO said we'd better pay, so we did, but it just goes to show how the taxation system stinks over here.

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  • ZalmanEmmes
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    Soho, having lived under both Camden and Westminster City councils, I strongly recommend you find a vocation or transfer to the U.S. It makes me sick to hear and read about the craziness there. I didnt think it would get any worse, but it did.

    And politically, there is no way out. The tories are the same as labour....nothing like Thatcher vs. Michael Foot in the good ol days!

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  • Sig220Man
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    Soho, check your PM's

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  • SB
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    Ok, screens - tv, get ya.
    Yes, we do have to pay a for a TV licence every year to fund the BBC which as Sig correctly states has no advertising. However, you still have to pay even if you pay to have cable or satelite TV, which a lot of people thing is wrong (including me)
    The detector van thing has always been bull, there is no way a detector van can tell how many tellys you have in your house. All they do is look to see if you have a dish or ariel then check back against their records.
    I did know about the window tax, Mayfair has some great examples of thin buildings with tall, thin windows.
    Yes, London is expensive. Very expensive. We already pay some of the highest council tax bills in the UK (tax to pay for the county council srvices, police service, borough council services, town council services, ie, refuse collection, street lighting etc). We pay

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  • ZalmanEmmes
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    Oh and by the way, this charge system is ridiculous. I know in Italy they issue license plates for cars and you can only enter the city on certain days if you license plate color is for that day. So monday would be blue and if you had a red plate (for example) you couldnt drive into the city. So what did most people do......they bought a second car!!

    London is getting too overpriced. Friends have told me they've been dreading this tax for a long time.

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  • ZalmanEmmes
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    There USED to be tax years ago under King George (dont remember which one) where homes in were taxed by the windows you have in the home. The concept was the more windows the bigger the house and the richer the owner.

    Thats why on many Georgian homes you find windows cemented up and part of the facade. It became a fashion. Soho Bandit look at the homes in the Outer Circle in Regents Parks, especially the Nash homes and you see it there....something I learnt in school!

    And as far as the taxes for the TV's maybe that was for the licence system which I NEVER understood...I was always scared of those vans coming around with the detectors and the four hundred pound fine!

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  • Kingseye
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    In that context, the story would make more sense......

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  • Sig220Man
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    Kingseye,

    I think when the Brits were referring to the number "screens" to your sister, they were talking about television screens, not window screens.

    The tax is specifically to pay for the BBC, which has no advertising.

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