Okay, so I know nobody likes the nuts at opencarry.org, but I had to share this hilarious story.
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...ff-AT-GUNPOINT!
The original poster since redacted his story, but luckily someone quoted it:
Earlier today I was on my way home from the Southwest Plaza Mall area on Wadsworth and Bowles in Littleton, CO. For those of you who don't know the area this is the same vicinity as the Columbine High School shootings and the Dear Creek Middle School shootings.
Anyways, while walking towards the bus stop through the Southwest Plaza mall parking lot, I saw a mall security SUV driving by me (I was OC at the time). I boarded a bus that I normally take when in the area and thought nothing of the rent-a-cops driving by. Needless to say, when the bus got to Kipling and Bowles about a 3 blocks away from the mall, it was stopped by ten Jeffco sheriff vehicles who all got behind their doors and drew assault rifles and handguns and ordered me to disembark the bus. Now before anyone says that I was breaking the law by carrying on the bus, I want you to know that I carry a firearm at work as a Tactical Paramedic and am Colorado POST certified to carry weapons the same as any police officer, on duty or off. Thus, the statutes regarding guns on buses does not apply in my case.
I disembarked making sure not to make any sudden movements or threatening gestures. I complied with the officer's orders and was subsequently face down on the ground, disarmed and in handcuffs. The officers then placed me in the back of one of the patrol vehicles and informed me that mall security had called on me for carrying in a parking lot (a lot that is not posted for no firearms by the way). I presented my badge and proper departmental ID and the officers closed me in the car while they ran my information. After about fifteen minutes they came back and allowed me to step out of the vehicle at my request. They then showed professional courtesy and un-cuffed me while we finished talking. One of the officers actually asked me "what gives you the right to carry a gun?" I made it clear to them that my open carry had no direct relation to my employment and that as an open carry proponent belonging to this forum I was exercising my 2A rights. I educated the officers and let them know that open carry is the only constitutionally protected way to carry in Colorado and that the normalization of firearms is my personal goal in open carry. (It goes deeper than that, but thats the simple way for me to explain my goals here)
At this point they ran the serial number of my gun (clear, by the way) and gave me a courtesy ride home. At this point I was allowed to re-arm and was "informed" by the officer that our "group of open carriers must be aware that we will be stopped and detained at gunpoint anywhere we go in the city of littleton" and that that "is just the nature of the fear around here" Furthermore he said that we should never even think to carry as its a "stupid and un-necessary act in such a good area" as I could be shot should I make the wrong move.
I informed the officer that I would be posting this on the forums here and would be obtaining a copy of all of the dash-cams and transcripts of all radio traffic from my stop. It is my personal opinion that a lawsuit might be in order over this matter (harrassment, unlawful detainer without evidence of a crime, the list goes on) but I would be interested to see what everyone here has to say first.
Let me know please......
Come to find out, a Denver news station picked it up, and one of the members posted a link to the story:
http://www.9news.com/news/article.as...9104&catid=339
If you don't want to click on the link here is the story:
Looks like this kid god owned pretty bad.
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...ff-AT-GUNPOINT!
The original poster since redacted his story, but luckily someone quoted it:
Earlier today I was on my way home from the Southwest Plaza Mall area on Wadsworth and Bowles in Littleton, CO. For those of you who don't know the area this is the same vicinity as the Columbine High School shootings and the Dear Creek Middle School shootings.
Anyways, while walking towards the bus stop through the Southwest Plaza mall parking lot, I saw a mall security SUV driving by me (I was OC at the time). I boarded a bus that I normally take when in the area and thought nothing of the rent-a-cops driving by. Needless to say, when the bus got to Kipling and Bowles about a 3 blocks away from the mall, it was stopped by ten Jeffco sheriff vehicles who all got behind their doors and drew assault rifles and handguns and ordered me to disembark the bus. Now before anyone says that I was breaking the law by carrying on the bus, I want you to know that I carry a firearm at work as a Tactical Paramedic and am Colorado POST certified to carry weapons the same as any police officer, on duty or off. Thus, the statutes regarding guns on buses does not apply in my case.
I disembarked making sure not to make any sudden movements or threatening gestures. I complied with the officer's orders and was subsequently face down on the ground, disarmed and in handcuffs. The officers then placed me in the back of one of the patrol vehicles and informed me that mall security had called on me for carrying in a parking lot (a lot that is not posted for no firearms by the way). I presented my badge and proper departmental ID and the officers closed me in the car while they ran my information. After about fifteen minutes they came back and allowed me to step out of the vehicle at my request. They then showed professional courtesy and un-cuffed me while we finished talking. One of the officers actually asked me "what gives you the right to carry a gun?" I made it clear to them that my open carry had no direct relation to my employment and that as an open carry proponent belonging to this forum I was exercising my 2A rights. I educated the officers and let them know that open carry is the only constitutionally protected way to carry in Colorado and that the normalization of firearms is my personal goal in open carry. (It goes deeper than that, but thats the simple way for me to explain my goals here)
At this point they ran the serial number of my gun (clear, by the way) and gave me a courtesy ride home. At this point I was allowed to re-arm and was "informed" by the officer that our "group of open carriers must be aware that we will be stopped and detained at gunpoint anywhere we go in the city of littleton" and that that "is just the nature of the fear around here" Furthermore he said that we should never even think to carry as its a "stupid and un-necessary act in such a good area" as I could be shot should I make the wrong move.
I informed the officer that I would be posting this on the forums here and would be obtaining a copy of all of the dash-cams and transcripts of all radio traffic from my stop. It is my personal opinion that a lawsuit might be in order over this matter (harrassment, unlawful detainer without evidence of a crime, the list goes on) but I would be interested to see what everyone here has to say first.
Let me know please......
http://www.9news.com/news/article.as...9104&catid=339
If you don't want to click on the link here is the story:
DENVER - 9Wants to Know has learned Denver Police arrested a man after they say he impersonated a paramedic, took a gun on an RTD bus and RTD light rail and claimed to be part of a swat team.
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Police want to know if Wayne Michael Thornton, 21, has claimed to be a paramedic other times.
Thornton is seen wearing a paramedic's uniform and a gun at the Interstate 25 and Broadway light rail stop on Tuesday when security reviewed his ID, RTD spokesman Scott Reed told 9Wants to Know.
"It is a felony to carry weapons aboard public transportation, unless the passenger is a law enforcement officer or has a valid concealed carry permit," Reed said.
Deputies allowed Thornton to board a train, but later learned the ID was fake.
Jefferson County Sheriff's deputies responded to a call about Thornton on Aug. 13 after security at Southwest Plaza called deputies when Thornton showed up at the mall's parking lot with a gun, according to Jefferson County Sheriff's Office spokesman Mark Techmeyer.
Deputies tracked the man onto an RTD bus and removed him. Deputies had their guns drawn. Techmeyer said Thornton claimed to be a tactical paramedic.
Deputies ran Thornton's background, but it came back clean and he was released, Techmeyer said.
The special investigations unit of the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office further investigated Thornton and discovered he is not a paramedic, Techmeyer said.
They also discovered he has a juvenile record that prevents him from being able to carry a gun, 9Wants to Know has learned.
Thornton faces charges of possession of a weapon by a previous offender and possessing a firearm or explosive on public transportation.
Online court records show Thornton has a second advisement in Denver County Court on Sept. 2.
The Jefferson County District Attorney's office is considering whether to file charges against Thornton.
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Police want to know if Wayne Michael Thornton, 21, has claimed to be a paramedic other times.
Thornton is seen wearing a paramedic's uniform and a gun at the Interstate 25 and Broadway light rail stop on Tuesday when security reviewed his ID, RTD spokesman Scott Reed told 9Wants to Know.
"It is a felony to carry weapons aboard public transportation, unless the passenger is a law enforcement officer or has a valid concealed carry permit," Reed said.
Deputies allowed Thornton to board a train, but later learned the ID was fake.
Jefferson County Sheriff's deputies responded to a call about Thornton on Aug. 13 after security at Southwest Plaza called deputies when Thornton showed up at the mall's parking lot with a gun, according to Jefferson County Sheriff's Office spokesman Mark Techmeyer.
Deputies tracked the man onto an RTD bus and removed him. Deputies had their guns drawn. Techmeyer said Thornton claimed to be a tactical paramedic.
Deputies ran Thornton's background, but it came back clean and he was released, Techmeyer said.
The special investigations unit of the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office further investigated Thornton and discovered he is not a paramedic, Techmeyer said.
They also discovered he has a juvenile record that prevents him from being able to carry a gun, 9Wants to Know has learned.
Thornton faces charges of possession of a weapon by a previous offender and possessing a firearm or explosive on public transportation.
Online court records show Thornton has a second advisement in Denver County Court on Sept. 2.
The Jefferson County District Attorney's office is considering whether to file charges against Thornton.
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