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  • Magistrate rules that it is OK to tell Police to "F**K OFF!"

    In a case being heard before the Court recently in Townsville, Queensland, a Magistrate ruled that it is OK to tell Police to "F**K OFF!" whilst Police went about their duties.

    Needless to sy this ruling has created case law and the Queensland Police Service Union is appealling this decision. The link below takes you to the story.

    http://www.news.com.au/national/its-...-1225901937675

    It was also reported that costs were later awarded against Police.

    As if our jobs are hard enough without idiotic rulings such as this. Can you imagine the uproar, not to mention formal complaints that would follow if it was reported that Police told grubs to "F**K OFF!"
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  • #2
    Well tell that Magistrate to F#(% Off whiles he's performing his duties and see how he likes it.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by brad601 View Post
      Well tell that Magistrate to F#(% Off whiles he's performing his duties and see how he likes it.
      Yup, evidently he sees nothing wrong with it
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      • #4
        Nothing new in that decision for officers here in NY. words are just that.....unless they along with the actions of the perp rise to the level of Disorderly Conduct, an arrestable offense.

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        • #5
          I've heard officers tell members of the public to f*ck off. I think the public should be allowed to do the same. They just shouldn't expect the officer to provide the level of service they would to a decent acting person.

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          • #6
            That might be new for Queensland, but in the US that was already the law. First amendment and all.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Scipio View Post
              That might be new for Queensland, but in the US that was already the law. First amendment and all.
              Weeeellll sorta, for instance down here in Louisiana, we have "disturbing the peace by loud or abusive language" (a state charge). That means, if you say it in public where anyone else other than the police can hear then your hooked and booked and yes this has stood the test of time this is not a new law. If you began to argue with the police and you get loud and raise your voice loudly, not just raise the tone, but your yelling at the police (or anyone not just the police), again, if you are in public doing this you can be hooked and booked.
              Ignored: Towncop, Pulicords, TacoMac, Ten08

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              • #8
                Creolecop, I believe it's the same in NY except the other person hearing it has to be 'visibly alarmed' by what they said.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LINY View Post
                  Creolecop, I believe it's the same in NY except the other person hearing it has to be 'visibly alarmed' by what they said.
                  This is a law here that the officer has to witness it, so they can't call and say so and so just cursed me out in the parking lot of burger king. Also when we arrest for this "society" is listed as the victim. So we don't have to get witness statements and names of civilians who were present and heard. We the arresting officer testifys on behalf of "society". I love this law, it allows us to hook the loud mouths up easily when we are out on a scene and trying to gain control of it. Plus most depts around us to include us have audio and dashboard video. So our body mics when out of sight of the camera still pick up the loud mouth. I rarely see these get dropped. The vast majority plead guilty and pay a fine up to $500. 1st conviction usually is $275, then from there it goes up (to $500) and they start adding community service, then from there your at max fine amount and they start with the days in jail in addition. So once your at your 4th and subsequent (which is easy to get if your a loud mouth disrespectful heffer or punk) then your looking at max fine, 24hrs community service and 3days in jail. It goes up to 6mo in jail. Oh, and no need for anyone to be visibly alarmed, the citizens around need not even speak to us about it, we take action and act on their behalf. Whats awesome is when on a scene and everyone there hates the police and is on the perps side and one starts to curse at us, because their family, or buddies are around when they started cursing then we can arrest the cursing subject for cursing around his own family or friends
                  Ignored: Towncop, Pulicords, TacoMac, Ten08

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                  • #10
                    In NY "a person is guilty of disorderly conduct when, with intent to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk there of: 1. .....; or 2. he makes an unreasonable noise; or
                    3. in a public place, he uses abusive or obscene language, or makes an obscene gesture; or......."

                    No requirement for anyone to become visibly alarmed, the actor must just intend to do what the section requires. The other 5 possible causative actions do not invole language or speech. A Law Enforcement Officer is not usually considered a victim of either 1. or 2. since our training should enable us to resist being inconvenienced. annoyed or alarmed by such speech or language.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by creolecop View Post
                      Weeeellll sorta, for instance down here in Louisiana, we have "disturbing the peace by loud or abusive language" (a state charge). That means, if you say it in public where anyone else other than the police can hear then your hooked and booked and yes this has stood the test of time this is not a new law. If you began to argue with the police and you get loud and raise your voice loudly, not just raise the tone, but your yelling at the police (or anyone not just the police), again, if you are in public doing this you can be hooked and booked.
                      So if you don't want to get arrested you just gotta go up and whisper it in the cop's ear.
                      "No one can make you feel like a turd without your permission." - Eleanor Roosevelt.

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                      • #12
                        California Penal Code
                        415. Any of the following persons shall be punished by imprisonment
                        in the county jail for a period of not more than 90 days, a fine of
                        not more than four hundred dollars ($400), or both such imprisonment
                        and fine:
                        (1) Any person who unlawfully fights in a public place or
                        challenges another person in a public place to fight.
                        (2) Any person who maliciously and willfully disturbs another
                        person by loud and unreasonable noise.
                        (3) Any person who uses offensive words in a public place which
                        are inherently likely to provoke an immediate violent reaction.
                        In California, there needs to be a victim who is willing to sign the citation and testify.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CPDEMT View Post
                          California Penal Code


                          In California, there needs to be a victim who is willing to sign the citation and testify.
                          Yup....and we cant be the victim either......
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                          • #14
                            There are many appellate decisions throughout the U.S. that hold that the First Amendment freedom of speech protects the use of obscene, offensive language.
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                            • #15
                              While we as peace officers can't be offended by the utterance of such language, it doesn't mean someone else's peace can't be breached and they are offended.
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