Americas most wanted lies on national TV

[Mike Tx]

They showed an AR7 .22 rimfire semi-auto and called it a high powered rifle on their latest show. Later in the show they show some parts of what looks like an AR15. Seems to me they are trying to associate an AR7 .22 with a real high powered rifle. They are lying about firearms.

[Kingseye]

I saw that too. I just about fell out of my chair laughing. John Walsh is very anti-gun. He has done alot to help take criminals off the street...gotta give him credit there, but this anti-gun agenda he has...it's a gettin' a bit old. Just my opinion.

[Mitzi]

I really admire John Walsh. Losing a child is #1 on the stress list. Also, he had no closure over Adam's death because they never caught who killed that prescious child.

[Mike Tx]

Originally posted by Mitzi:
I really admire John Walsh. Losing a child is #1 on the stress list. Also, he had no closure over Adam's death because they never caught who killed that prescious child.

Well, this is difficult, but I will not admire a liar. It's just that simple. His personal problems do not give him a license to lie.

[Glock]

You know what? I actually emailed AMW the second I saw that, telling them if that's a high powered rifle, I'd like to see Walsh with a .50 BMG, what a coincidence!

Originally posted by MikeTx:
They showed an AR7 .22 rimfire semi-auto and called it a high powered rifle on their latest show. Later in the show they show some parts of what looks like an AR15. Seems to me they are trying to associate an AR7 .22 with a real high powered rifle. They are lying about firearms.

[Niteshift]

John Walsh is anti-gun? Are you sure? Everything I've ever heard him say leaned the other way. He did campaign messages for our sheriff, who was pro-gun.

I have to ask this though: was it a "lie" or was it some ignorant producer that knows nothing about guns writing bad copy?

[Mike Tx]

It has the same result. Idiots believe it, and we lose. It was a lie in my opinion.

[Niteshift]

Lies aren't mistakes Mike. And mistakes aren't lies. Lying requires that you know the truth to begin with.

To some schmoe producer that grew up in NYC, never handling a gun, a video of a .22 exploding a gallon jug of water seems like a lot of power. To you and I, it doesn't.

Were they irresponsible? Yeah. Liars? Not so sure.

[Kingseye]

Originally posted by Niteshift:
John Walsh is anti-gun? Are you sure? Everything I've ever heard him say leaned the other way. He did campaign messages for our sheriff, who was pro-gun.

I have to ask this though: was it a "lie" or was it some ignorant producer that knows nothing about guns writing bad copy?

Yes, he is anti-gun. I saw him on FoxNews several weeks back, when he was talking about his up-coming (it was up-coming when he was on the show) AMW episode on the terrorists. He got off on a tangent about how guns are bad, and nobody has a real need for them, and only cops need guns, etc. He also was on CNN the next day, and more of the same. It did suprise me to hear him talk like that, I had no idea until then.
He is most definately pro-cop, so it's no surprise that he would campaign for a Sheriff or any other Law Enforcement official. As far as the bit tonight though....it could very well be that he was just reading what was on the card, who knows.

[Delta_V]

They could have called it an assault rifle (which is technically true under the law) and that would have had the same, if not more of an effect.

[Mike Tx]

Originally posted by Niteshift:
Lies aren't mistakes Mike. And mistakes aren't lies. Lying requires that you know the truth to begin with.

To some schmoe producer that grew up in NYC, never handling a gun, a video of a .22 exploding a gallon jug of water seems like a lot of power. To you and I, it doesn't.

Were they irresponsible? Yeah. Liars? Not so sure.

Yes I must agree, mistakes are not lies. Since I don't actually know what went on I have to give them that benefit, but it would not surprise me if they were lying. In the best case they are seriously misrepresenting a .22 rifle. What really got me going as well was that later on in the show they showed what appeared to be someone working what looked to be a rifle like an AR15. I suppose they were trying to say that was the AR7. I don't know, but it really burns me.

It's sickening to me to see that happen, not only with a rifle but any product.

And if John Walsh is anti gun like someone posted here, and I believe he is, he has some serious conflicts of interest. I don't see how someone can be as pro LE as he appears to be, and not realize the fallicy of gun control.

Of course he's just probably a talking head politician with an agenda, and you know how I feel about those. Just check the letter I wrote to the Star Telegram that was printed today about Governor wannabe Dan Morales. He says he's open to do a debate with another gov. hopeful entirely in spanish! And if that were not bad enough he had the poor judgement to marry a stripper!


Letter

Oops! Now look what you made me do! I took this off topic. Dammmmmmm....

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[LBomb]

Do you really believe that John Walsh and the people at AMW set out to "lie" to the public about a firearm? That is ridiculous. Maybe it's just me, but I can't see getting so hot and bothered over what amounts to nothing more then an ignorant copy writer who was trying to "j***" up the script.
So Walsh is anti-gun...so what? The same Constitution that allows a citizen to possess a gun allows him to question that idea. You are so upset that he is questioning a constitutional right, yet he is critcized for exercising his own?
In the long run AMW is a TV show...for entertainment...for Fox to make a profit off of. I doubt that the higher ups would say "Yeah John, go ahead and lie about the gun just to get your anti-gun message out".
Pretty scary when people get more upset about the identity of the gun then the brutal crime that was commited with it. Just my opinion.

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[Arctic Cop]

John Walsh is a real American hero. The guy had a regular everyday life prior to his son being murdered. John Walsh stood up and decided to act, not talk, and do something about the crime problem in our nation. John Walsh is responsible for the capture of hundreds of criminals that have eluded the law enforcement agencies searching for them. Instead of nitpicking the man and the show for some trivial minutia , why not tip your hat to the man and recognize the work he has done for society?

[Niteshift]

I agree. I admire the hell out of him.

[MontanaCop]

Whether they intentionally did it or not I don't know, but lies are told all the time on national TV, so it wouldn't be anything new. Even the local news is pretty inaccurate/slanted, etc.