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  • Man carries AK-style pistol with 30-rd magazine to state park

    Yes, it's another gun-based story, but it happened in my neck of the woods (TN). This guy carried the weapon solely for the reason to get approached by police. Although not mentioned in the story, he told state park police he painted the tip of the barrel orange because police will be less likely to "shoot first." He also indicated he was going to carry in other areas and record audio/video of any police contact. The ATF did declare it a "pistol" because of it's length, regardless of the fact he had a 30-rd mag in it. Not to suggest anything, but it seems he's also an oc.org member. The DAs office is still investigating and he's refusing interview requests (from media).

    A man carrying an AK-47-style semiautomatic pistol was detained at Radnor Lake State Park on Sunday after startled hikers complained to park rangers.



    Ellen Thomas told WSMV-TV she was hiking an upper trail when she encountered Leonard Embody wearing a camouflage jacket, military boots and a black skull cap. She called the encounter scary.
    State Department of Environment and Conservation spokeswoman Tisha Calabrese-Benton said Embody, 37, was detained by park rangers because his weapon looked like a rifle.
    After the gun was secured and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives personnel were called, Embody was released without charges because he has a handgun carry permit.
    Calabrese-Benton said the gun had no stock and the barrel was under 11 inches; state attorneys are investigating whether the AK-47-style pistol, with a 30-round magazine, is legal to carry as a handgun.
    Also, the muzzle apparently had a toylike orange tip, although it was a real gun.
    The state legislature passed a law earlier this year allowing people with handgun permits to carry their weapons in parks.
    Stereotype perpetuated
    John Pierce is a co-founder of OpenCarry.org, a group that seeks to normalize openly carrying "properly holstered handguns."
    "On a fundamental level, I don't think he did anything wrong," Pierce said of Embody, "but politically that might not be best thing to do, and it's not something we're advocating for."
    Pierce said wearing camouflage also perpetuates an unhelpful stereotype.
    Pierce said he lived in Bristol, Va., for years, right on the Tennessee state line. He said he has openly carried a holstered, normal-sized handgun in Tennessee numerous times and never had anyone complain about it.
    On Wednesday, some media outlets reported that a blogger claiming to be Embody stated online that he would go to Nashville's Bicentennial Mall next week with the weapon.
    Metro Police spokeswoman Kristin Mumford said Nashville officers have been alerted to the possibility and warned that the weapon is legal.
    Calabrese-Benton said in an e-mailed statement that the reaction of park patrons showed "the average person enjoying a state park would not recognize this weapon as a handgun.
    "The department is dismayed that someone would carry a weapon into a state park seemingly with the intent of testing authorities and the boundaries of the new gun law, while alarming others who want to enjoy the park."
    No phone number was listed for Embody. Pierce said a man claiming to be Embody who is posting on OpenCarry.org forums said he is refusing media interviews.
    The weapon is similar to this one for those that don't want to open the link:




    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...te-Park-hikers
    Last edited by SgtScott31; 01-11-2010, 06:44 PM.
    I'm 10-8 like a shark in a sea of crime..

  • #2
    Why does this man breath the same air as us?

    I need a vacation from reading these articles. lol
    MDRDEP:

    There are no stupid questions, but there sure are a lot of inquisitive idiots.

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    • #3
      Ugh, people like this are a setback to gun rights movements.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by HurricaneDC View Post
        Ugh, people like this are a setback to gun rights movements.
        Agreed
        I'm 10-8 like a shark in a sea of crime..

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        • #5
          The man has a hobby, make his hobby boring by not caring and he will loose interest.

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          • #6
            Still within rights to detain and determine if the weapon is in fact a pistol and is in fact legal. I would not bet my life or others on some staff puke who puts out a memo saying "Joe X is allowd to carry handguns that look like auto weps. Don't stop any males matching his discription" ...riiiiigghhhtt.
            Free Deke O'Mally!!!

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            • #7
              Ah yes, the saga of "Kwikrnu" which is the name he posted under on various forums. All of which he is currently banned from.

              Kwik was a notorious Cop hater\basher over on GlockTalk until he posted about this episode which got him banned.

              So he took his show to other forums and wasn't long before they banned him to.

              Like the slug he is he has left a long trail of postings detailing his thinking at what his plans were before this incident. He has since last Sept. OC'd in various state parks with a .44 mag. By his own admission he did not provoke a response from LE. So he upped his game.

              He specifically Chose the AK47 pistol because he believed LEO's would fail to recognize it as a pistol, thus providing the confrontation he craved.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by David Hineline View Post
                The man has a hobby, make his hobby boring by not caring and he will loose interest.
                So if the public calls in about this guy walking around with what looks like an automatic weapon we're just supposed to tell them "it's ok he has a hobby and we're not caring so he'll go away and lose interest"??? Must be nice living in your world where everything works out that way.

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                • #9
                  Now he will have TN pass a law like many other states that provide for a crime if your OC causes a public disturbance (as it probably did in this case).

                  Attention seeking idiot.

                  Colorado's law on the subject:
                  18-9-106. Disorderly conduct.

                  (1) A person commits disorderly conduct if he or she intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly:
                  ...

                  (f) Not being a peace officer, displays a deadly weapon, displays any article used or fashioned in a manner to cause a person to reasonably believe that the article is a deadly weapon, or represents verbally or otherwise that he or she is armed with a deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm.
                  ...

                  (3) An offense under…(1) (f) of this section is a class 2 misdemeanor.
                  I'd wager coming to TN real soon if the this has any staying power in the local media.
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                  • #10
                    it was only a matter of time before this idiot made the news.
                    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Orwell

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HotSoup View Post
                      So if the public calls in about this guy walking around with what looks like an automatic weapon we're just supposed to tell them "it's ok he has a hobby and we're not caring so he'll go away and lose interest"??? Must be nice living in your world where everything works out that way.

                      I am just saying that if your hobby is whacking the bull on the nose to see the reaction, and the bull stops reacting, then the hobby will end.

                      As long as police make a big deal of it and get it in the press and talk about it like we are doing here, he and others like him are going to whack the bull on the nose.

                      The man who needs to hide his weapons and hides is much more a thread to public safety or officers.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by David Hineline View Post
                        I am just saying that if your hobby is whacking the bull on the nose to see the reaction, and the bull stops reacting, then the hobby will end.

                        As long as police make a big deal of it and get it in the press and talk about it like we are doing here, he and others like him are going to whack the bull on the nose.

                        The man who needs to hide his weapons and hides is much more a thread to public safety or officers.
                        What he means is, if someone calls in reporting someone carrying what looks to be an AK-47, where open carrying such a weapon is prohibited, we have to respond. There is no "leave him alone and he'll stop", if a law is possibly being broken.
                        It's not up to us, we're not making a big deal about it, try blaming the media, if they didn't cover the story, no one would've even known this BS happened.
                        "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Orwell

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                        • #13
                          Ok so respond and say oh it's just an AK pistol the citizen complaint thought it might have been a real gun.

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                          • #14
                            I am just saying that if your hobby is whacking the bull on the nose to see the reaction, and the bull stops reacting, then the hobby will end.
                            The problem with our theory is the evidence, at least in the case of this guy demonstrates that he does not stop when he gets no reaction. Instead he escalates his activities.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by David Hineline View Post
                              Ok so respond and say oh it's just an AK pistol the citizen complaint thought it might have been a real gun.
                              either way, the subject would have to be detained and the weapon inspected to make sure it falls under the handgun criteria ( barrel under 11" etc., etc. ), then the media gets involved ( and we all know the PD didn't call them ), and we're left with the same exact situation we have here.
                              "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Orwell

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