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  • #16
    Originally posted by SleepyCop View Post
    Agreed. If they choose to suffer the effects of having a Brave New World, I say let them. It would merely show the rest of the populace how much chaos can be created by such a socialistic theory.
    Looks like they already have, but the liberals keep ignoring the results and demand more of it.
    The liberal politician has the only job where they go to the office to work for everyone but those who pay their salary.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DAL View Post
      Very few of the medical marijuana "dispensaries" comply fully with California law. In addition, a lot of what they sell is tainted, often with pesticides that are banned for use on crops, or else with excessive pesticide levels.
      Yeah, you gotta love those "quality control issues".

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      • #18
        Did anyone catch the documentary on A&E last night about the small town in Humboldt County, Ca. and their increasing problems with "Medical Marijuana" and grow houses? I think it was called Pot, Inc. Talks about how many homes have been turned into illegal grow houses and how its taken over their town. The police were talking about how the local gas/electric company (PG&E) needed to share in some of the responsibility because they were collecting cash payments on the first of each month from all the dealers who had 3-4K a month electric payments. I guess PG&E won't play because of privacy issues, also don't want their employees to fear for their lives....there was a video of a guy who keeps going to the City Council asking/begging them to do something and all they would do is recite the medical marijuana bill. It was really interesting actually and I felt bad for the older people who felt trapped in their homes by the grow dealers.

        One of the ladies who runs a head shop stated that its a myth that people that smoke mj everday don't lead productive lives....hmmmm...maybe she should tell that to a 55yr old family member who still smokes everday and eats cheetos on his couch, no job, no car, no money and no initiative to change it.

        There is no way in heck I would live in any town if it sucked that bad......

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        • #19
          Originally posted by mikeymedic View Post
          Great let the pot heads get away with it.
          If it is no longer illegal they wont be "getting away" with anything.
          "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”

          — John Stuart Mill

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          • #20
            The problem with CA's law is that it was wrongly purported to be a "medical" solution to "medical" issues. Under it's provisions, "caregivers" (basically anyone deemed to be giving "care") can provide "authorization" to legally purchase marijuana from those who sell it "for medical purposes." Sounds vague? You bet! It was intended to have holes big enough to drive trucks (loaded with pot) through.

            Under this legislation, I could write a note (can't call it a "prescription") authorizing marijuana to my wife for "stress" or "headaches". Certain "Marijuana Clubs" have employed nurses that will write such notes to anyone at anytime for any perceived illness (for a price of course ). The regulations allowing sales are vague and those requiring "non-profit" status of the businesses that sell marijuana are also deliberately obtuse. As poorly written as this initiative was, the majority of the voters approved it and we (LE) are stuck with the results:

            1) A poorly written law that conflicts with others.
            2) A lack of clarification of which law supersedes which.

            Now that the president has announced state law will prevail, one has to wonder what's the purpose of federal agencies like the Food and Drug Administration or federal regulations that provide such organizations with "teeth"? If the general populace of a state like CA (with a lot of uninformed voters) can approve laws dispensing with medical expertise on marijuana, why couldn't they do the same with other medical treatments like:
            1) Unproven cancer cures.
            2) Faith healing.
            3) "Natural" health supplements.
            "I'm not fluent in the language of violence, but I know enough to get around in places where it's spoken."

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Nobody View Post
              California was only the first, 12 states followed suit (medical marijuana). This is just the FedGov giving the states the leeway to make their own laws and govern the dispensaries



              sure you do - vote
              Yeah........that works........not!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by pulicords View Post
                The problem with CA's law is that it was wrongly purported to be a "medical" solution to "medical" issues.
                My regular running route passes two "dispensaries. I've noticed quite a few of their "patients" dashing to and from their cars after picking up their "medicine" or to put money in the meters. News reports about medical MJ always show some stick-thin cancer patient firing up a joint, but I don't see any people like that frequenting the pot shops.

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                • #23
                  Yeah, I saw that A&E thing last night, too. Pretty interesting. The "grow houses" were pretty messed up in the way they destroyed rental properties. However, I can't really see how that relates to CA's medical marijuana laws. In other parts of the country houses are frequently destroyed by meth labs, and meth is not legal like pot. Honestly, it was sometimes hard to understand why the people of that town were so upset. I think more than the weed, it was the fact their town was changing. They mentioned one or two incidents of violence relating to marijuana, but I think that's just because marijuana is a comodity. When someone has something valuable, sometimes someone else kills them for it. Anyhow, they didn't really show any proof that violence was relatively high in that town.
                  I definitely have no problem with medical marijuana, but I agree with others on this forum that these loopholes should be tightened. Same goes for a lot of drugs, though. I've heard that it's pretty easy to get a prescription for anything if you have money: steroids, xanax, vicodin.. you name it.
                  "No one can make you feel like a turd without your permission." - Eleanor Roosevelt.

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                  • #24
                    Well if it is a legitimate legal (under state law) business then the growers should be paying TAXES on their income.....right ??

                    Tax evasion is what brought down Al Capone....right ??

                    There are probably all kinds of business licenses these guys should have but do not, and zoning probably prevents agriculture or horticulture for profit as well.

                    Bill
                    Just pay your dues, and be quiet :-)

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by adeutch View Post
                      Yeah, I saw that A&E thing last night, too. Pretty interesting. The "grow houses" were pretty messed up in the way they destroyed rental properties. However, I can't really see how that relates to CA's medical marijuana laws. In other parts of the country houses are frequently destroyed by meth labs, and meth is not legal like pot. Honestly, it was sometimes hard to understand why the people of that town were so upset. I think more than the weed, it was the fact their town was changing. They mentioned one or two incidents of violence relating to marijuana, but I think that's just because marijuana is a comodity. When someone has something valuable, sometimes someone else kills them for it. Anyhow, they didn't really show any proof that violence was relatively high in that town.
                      I definitely have no problem with medical marijuana, but I agree with others on this forum that these loopholes should be tightened. Same goes for a lot of drugs, though. I've heard that it's pretty easy to get a prescription for anything if you have money: steroids, xanax, vicodin.. you name it.
                      It relates because people are making a profit on selling dope under the guise of helping the sick. When you have more than 20% of homes in your area being used as grow houses than I think its a problem. There are so many loopholes under the current law. I don't think its so much the violence now but the increasing incidents involving guns and dope. All towns change and I understand that. Again, for me its all about taxing the income that all these people are making based on the needs of "medical marijuana" patients. On the show they only showed one guy who was dying of cancer who was using it under what the law probaby intended....however, the hundreds of teens in the park that were all getting high....ummmm not so much.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Multi Tasker View Post
                        It relates because people are making a profit on selling dope under the guise of helping the sick. When you have more than 20% of homes in your area being used as grow houses than I think its a problem. There are so many loopholes under the current law. I don't think its so much the violence now but the increasing incidents involving guns and dope. All towns change and I understand that. Again, for me its all about taxing the income that all these people are making based on the needs of "medical marijuana" patients. On the show they only showed one guy who was dying of cancer who was using it under what the law probaby intended....however, the hundreds of teens in the park that were all getting high....ummmm not so much.
                        It's definitely a problem. But the problem is that those grow houses are illegal. The legal growers, like the cancer guy or the dispensaries, just grow it in the backyard or greenhouse.
                        And yeah the teens in the park getting high were just stupid hippies. But I still don't understand what they have to do with the medical weed laws. Do they all have the weed card, or are they just getting it the old fashioned way, from a dealer on the corner?
                        I agree, CA needs to tighten up the loopholes and make sure only real doctors are prescribing weed.
                        "No one can make you feel like a turd without your permission." - Eleanor Roosevelt.

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