My father in law mentioned he heard something on the radio the other day about the TO's at the academy were not certified to be training recruits. Anyone have any more information about this? The radio said it would be an issue with cops who have been disciplined for training issues and the like in the past.
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The only thing I can say for sure is about the advanced classes that are taught to already sworn officers. Let's say you want to be a radar instructor for LAPD. You would have to be radar certified already. Then, instead of going to a POST certified radar instructor course, you would go to an LAPD instructor development course. You are then an LAPD instructor to teach whatever you want including radar. The instructor development course just tells you how to teach.God made perfect cops.......The rest he put in cars.
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Originally posted by BanditLAPD View PostMy father in law mentioned he heard something on the radio the other day about the TO's at the academy were not certified to be training recruits. Anyone have any more information about this? The radio said it would be an issue with cops who have been disciplined for training issues and the like in the past.
While LAPD's academy has become a lot easier over the recent years it is still a POST certified academy.
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I believe there may be a problem because POST requires that trainers be approved in advance to teach the specific course they teach. In the past, POST was more flexible.Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein
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You do not have to be P.O.S.T. certified if the class you are teaching is not a P.O.S.T. certified course. For example, an officer teaching departmental policies and procedures does not have to be certified; or, the officer who is presenting a multi-agency course on how to overcome a hostage situation (Non-P.O.S.T), etc.
Typically, Federal agency instructors are not CA P.O.S.T. certified instructors - FBI, DEA, ATF and others. They are, however, certified through the F.L.E.T.C. programs.
These are the instructor courses available through the system:
INSTR. TECHN. FOR LE TRAINERS
INSTRUCTOR DEV.-BASIC COURSE
INSTRUCTOR DEVELOPMENT
INSTRUCTOR DEVELOPMENT - CRITICAL THINKING
INSTRUCTOR DEVELOPMENT - PRESENTATION SKILLS
INSTRUCTOR DEVELOPMENT EXT.
INSTRUCTOR DEVELOPMENT SYMPOSIUM
INSTRUCTOR DEVELOPMENT-INTERMEDIATE
INSTRUCTOR/CURRICULUM DEV.Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence!
[George Washington (1732 - 1799)]
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Originally posted by SgtCHP View PostYou do not have to be P.O.S.T. certified if the class you are teaching is not a P.O.S.T. certified course. For example, an officer teaching departmental policies and procedures does not have to be certified; or, the officer who is presenting a multi-agency course on how to overcome a hostage situation (Non-P.O.S.T), etc.
Typically, Federal agency instructors are not CA P.O.S.T. certified instructors - FBI, DEA, ATF and others. They are, however, certified through the F.L.E.T.C. programs.
These are the instructor courses available through the system:
INSTR. TECHN. FOR LE TRAINERS
INSTRUCTOR DEV.-BASIC COURSE
INSTRUCTOR DEVELOPMENT
INSTRUCTOR DEVELOPMENT - CRITICAL THINKING
INSTRUCTOR DEVELOPMENT - PRESENTATION SKILLS
INSTRUCTOR DEVELOPMENT EXT.
INSTRUCTOR DEVELOPMENT SYMPOSIUM
INSTRUCTOR DEVELOPMENT-INTERMEDIATE
INSTRUCTOR/CURRICULUM DEV.
I noticed that POST recently approved some DHS courses for POST credit. I don't know what they did about instructor approval on those.Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by VChopefull View PostI think not.....The academy as a whole is a "CA POST" certified academy so I bet they are doing everything by the book.
While LAPD's academy has become a lot easier over the recent years it is still a POST certified academy.
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Originally posted by nogginbuster24 View Posteasier? then how was it like 10-20 years ago?
Nowadays, some of the more, shall we say, less exposed type people, are making complaints against some of the instructors for some not so nice type words. In "the old days," that would never happen.
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Originally posted by LA Copper View PostA lot more yelling, a lot more PT, and a lot more regimented. We would not be caught walking anywhere unless it was in formation. From what I've seen, they're trying to get back to that.
Nowadays, some of the more, shall we say, less exposed type people, are making complaints against some of the instructors for some not so nice type words. In "the old days," that would never happen.
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Originally posted by BanditLAPD View PostMy father in law mentioned he heard something on the radio the other day about the TO's at the academy were not certified to be training recruits. Anyone have any more information about this? The radio said it would be an issue with cops who have been disciplined for training issues and the like in the past.
Example: Having a course of instruction on criminal law. It will probably be taught by a prosecutor and not a cop.
Domestic violence would be taught by some kind of victim/witness advocate and not a cop.
The list goes on. Obviously there are somethings that should be taught by cops, like DUI/DID enforcement.
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