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    From: http://www.wptv.com/content/news/cen...GqLLMwSIA.cspx

    A suspect is behind bars after three quick-thinking men were able to stop a sexual assault in progress early this morning, investigators said.

    According to a probable cause affidavit released by the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office, Mateo Aguilir forced himself on the unidentified victim as she walked from a store near Gun Club Road and Military Trail around 1:30 a.m.

    Agulir then groped the victim and attempted to bite her on the face, according to the affidavit.

    While the two were struggling, three men heard the victim yelling and called 911. The men then held Aguilir down until deputies arrived.

    Aguilir was transported to the Palm Beach County Jail where he faces attempted sexual assault charges.

  • #2
    Looks like they did more then hold him down rofl.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    • #3
      "The men held then held Aguilir down until deputies arrived."

      Based on his picture, I wholeheartedly believe that is all that they did.

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      • #4
        Would you realy argue with there statement though?
        Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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        • #5
          Would private citizens be held to the same standards (in terms of use of force) as an officer when it comes to stopping a crime in progress?

          Also, we can't tell from the information provided, but it seems reasonable to me that they might have had to punch him a few times in order to get compliance with being held down.

          Regardless, great job, citizens! There are too many people who would turn a blind eye because they didn't want to get involved.
          Hatred never ceases by hatred, but by love alone is healed.
          Happiness never decreases by being shared. -- Buddhist quotation
          A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. -- Proverbs 15:1

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          • #6
            Wow. I imagine he's going to be getting 'held down' a lot in the near future.

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            • #7
              man, he had a rough night! lol...

              good job citizens! hope the lady is okay!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Presence 1* View Post
                man, he had a rough night! lol...

                good job citizens! hope the lady is okay!
                ^^^^What my fellow copper said!^^^^
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                Originally posted by Smurfette
                Lord have mercy. You're about as slick as the business side of duct tape.
                Originally posted by DAL
                You are without doubt a void surrounded by a sphincter muscle.

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                • #9
                  It looks like he kept beating their fists with his eyes.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rubyrose View Post
                    Would private citizens be held to the same standards (in terms of use of force) as an officer when it comes to stopping a crime in progress?

                    Also, we can't tell from the information provided, but it seems reasonable to me that they might have had to punch him a few times in order to get compliance with being held down.

                    Regardless, great job, citizens! There are too many people who would turn a blind eye because they didn't want to get involved.

                    Just as it would be reasonable for an officer to punch the individual a few times to gain compliance.
                    Moooooooooooo, I'm a goat

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dingbat View Post
                      Looks like they did more then hold him down rofl.
                      He fell.
                      Sworn on September 22, 2010

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rubyrose View Post
                        Would private citizens be held to the same standards (in terms of use of force) as an officer when it comes to stopping a crime in progress?

                        Also, we can't tell from the information provided, but it seems reasonable to me that they might have had to punch him a few times in order to get compliance with being held down.

                        Regardless, great job, citizens! There are too many people who would turn a blind eye because they didn't want to get involved.
                        I'm of the opinion that private citizens should be held to a lower standard than an arresting officer in a situation like this. The officer has more training in handling unruly suspects, and has more tools to help gain compliance (taser, OC, baton, cuffs, etc.).
                        John Q. Citizen

                        They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

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                        • #13
                          Private citizens are held to a slightly higher standard for use of force, and they should be. That is the point of the Police; they are a group of individuals who have been trained and entrusted to use force as appropriate.

                          Average Joe can only use force to defend himself or someone else, or to effect a citizen's arrest.

                          In contrast, an LEO can issue a lawful order even when there is not necessarily a pending arrest or immediate threat (ie "Get down on the ground") and can exert force the ensure that order is followed.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Fëanor View Post
                            Private citizens are held to a slightly higher standard for use of force, and they should be. That is the point of the Police; they are a group of individuals who have been trained and entrusted to use force as appropriate.

                            Average Joe can only use force to defend himself or someone else, or to effect a citizen's arrest.

                            In contrast, an LEO can issue a lawful order even when there is not necessarily a pending arrest or immediate threat (ie "Get down on the ground") and can exert force the ensure that order is followed.

                            Then there force was justified. I find your statement kinda contradictory.

                            A leo can order someone to the ground and legally the person must comply, they could yell at him to get down all day long and nothing is backing there order up except force. So a citizen should be held to a lower standard by that means, also as someone stated not every civilian is trained in martial arts. so the use of force can be excessive or at least look excessive since each shot may not be as affective as someone who is trained.
                            Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rubyrose View Post
                              Would private citizens be held to the same standards (in terms of use of force) as an officer when it comes to stopping a crime in progress?

                              Also, we can't tell from the information provided, but it seems reasonable to me that they might have had to punch him a few times in order to get compliance with being held down.

                              Regardless, great job, citizens! There are too many people who would turn a blind eye because they didn't want to get involved.
                              Theoretically, yes; as a practical matter no.

                              There is rarely a public outcry when private citizens use excessive force, and juries likely would not expect as much self-control or use of alternatives.
                              Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
                              Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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