She didn't "throw" a shoe at him, the kick of the shoe was hardly a kick, it was weak and while maybe a sign of disrespect, it didn't warrant what happened.
Did she need something like that? Yeah, but by her parents when she was a wee one. Would that have flown lil over ten years ago, yeah, it would have. You have to consider the source, and it was a 15 year old girl, the Deputy was already at the door, the door should have been closed and the situation would have been done.
We have turds spit at the ground when we drive by, or suck their teeth ....does it warrant a beat down? No.........................not anymore, but there were those back in the day who would have taken notice of that kind of 'disrespect' and reacted accordingly.....those times are long gone.
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Originally posted by Biggy SmallzSo when you arrest someone, your not punishing them? Your taking their freedom to do as they please away. I would say that's a pretty harsh punishment (to some folks.)
Originally posted by tony.o View PostThe deputy messed up, everyone know that, but this should be handled by the department and not by some prosecutor filing criminal charges.
I'd like to know the circumstances of why that car was entered as being stolen if it was known that the owners teenage daughter took it and, if so, why the officer took this bogus auto theft report.
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He escalated a situation that didn't need to be. Yeah the wench threw a shoe at him. There are other ways to mess with inmates (especially juveniles) without having to slam their faces into a wall and rip them by the hair. Complete and utter lack of thought from this deputy.
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I don't want to hijack or derail the OP but are we so angry that this was done to a 15yo girl? Would it make any differance if it was a 15yo male? How about an 18 yo girl or 18 yo male?
Personally, I don't care in regard to the age or sex. The Deputy was wrong and most likly over reacted to something she said at the time or the shoe might have been the last straw. Don't know-Don't care I forgot who said it first but I +1 to smile, close door, and add to charge sheet.
Just curious because many have made the "girl" distinction.
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This dep's actions were way off base....I don't care how "lippy" or disrespectful she was....and the shoe kicked at him, is he for real? He's an embarassment to all of us...I wonder if he would've been as tough with a real bad***** gangbanger? He needs to be fired/charged.
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[QUOTE=Fëanor;1685280]Irrelevant (besides, you're jumping to conclusions)
Wow, that's pretty arrogant. Would you care to explain your comment and where I'm jumping to conclusions?
Juvenile is arrested. Juvenile is processed. Juvenile continues, dispite the fact she is now in a lock-up, to show, at the very least, poor judgement All at 15 years of age. Parents have failed to teach juvenile proper behavior or follow up on lessons taught. Parents do not have control of juvenile. My evaluation is based on 6 years of experience as well as my own somewhat ....er checkered past.
DISCLAIMER: Any mention, reference, or hint of past wrong doing on my part is by no means to be considered as an admission of guilt or complicity.
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Originally posted by juicesnn4e2See that is what I said, and this is coming from a Texas officer, where biggie is from... So biggie are you a police officer or not? because you should know that.
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We have an "Operating Without Consent" that we could charge her with, its a lesser offense than actually theft of a motor vehicle. To file this charge before we take the report we require the "victim" to complete a statement spelling out that they will pursue and follow-thru with charges...
Too many times we were being used as a repo-agency.
If they dont want charges pressed and just want the car back (IE they let someone borrow the car to get dope and have been gone two days, family issues etc) We broadcast an attempt to locate, thats it...
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Originally posted by Biggy SmallzProbably because the teenage daughter "STOLE" her parents car without PERMISSION. I would assume that would constitute a theft of a motor vehicle? Just because the parents knew their daughter had the car doesn't mean she had the right to take it, therefore it was stolen.
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Unless she spit on him, I cannot side with the cop. And, yes, it appears he PICKED HER UP by the hair.
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Hey, can I get this deputy to pay a visit to my ex?
I kid, I kid....
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Originally posted by tony.o View PostThe deputy messed up, everyone know that, but this should be handled by the department and not by some prosecutor filing criminal charges.
I'd like to know the circumstances of why that car was entered as being stolen if it was known that the owners teenage daughter took it and, if so, why the officer took this bogus auto theft report.
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Scary that some are trying to justify this guy's actions
IMO not only were this Deputy's actions excessive for a 15 year old girl, but they would have been excessive for anyone acting the way she did. Yes what she did was disrespectful and yes if you really wanted to you could probably stretch an assault charge out of it, but come on let's get real. The video doesn't lie. Aside from kicking a shoe out the door she did nothing to physically threaten the deputies. Would be a bit more interesting if we could hear the audio, but I wonder if he even gave the girl orders before jumping on her. Like many have said, how about shutting the door! She's in a holding tank and I doubt getting her out of it and on her way needed to be done immediately. His take down was pretty brutal, but even ignoring that the actions once he took her down were way out of line. Time for this guy to start looking for a new career.
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Originally posted by Biggy SmallzProbably because the teenage daughter "STOLE" her parents car without PERMISSION. I would assume that would constitute a theft of a motor vehicle? Just because the parents knew their daughter had the car doesn't mean she had the right to take it, therefore it was stolen.
You think I just pulled that out of my *** or something?
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The deputy messed up, everyone know that, but this should be handled by the department and not by some prosecutor filing criminal charges.
I'd like to know the circumstances of why that car was entered as being stolen if it was known that the owners teenage daughter took it and, if so, why the officer took this bogus auto theft report.
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