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  • 'Crack whore' comment earns juvenile judge a reprimand

    When keeping it real goes wrong...

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/brea...ry/924651.html

    'Crack whore' comment earns juvenile judge a reprimand

    A Miami juvenile court judge apologized for telling a runaway foster child she could end up a 'dead crack whore' if she didn't straighten up

    BY CAROL MARBIN MILLER
    [email protected]

    A Miami child-welfare judge drew the ire of his boss in the judiciary and local children's advocates when he told a 15-year-old runaway foster child she would end up a ''toothless, dead crack whore'' if she didn't mend her ways.

    Exasperated that the girl was refusing to return to a home where she said her caregiver hit and cursed at her, Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Spencer Eig lectured the sobbing teen about making bad choices during what began as a routine hearing Tuesday morning.

    ''You're throwing your life away,'' Eig told the girl. ``You could end up on the street toothless. You've seen these toothless hags on the street? You know how they get there? They blow their opportunities in life when they're 15. They run away, they end up -- people turn them into whores.''

    ''Toothless, dead crack whore -- dead at age 19? Is that the destiny you're looking for?'' he added.

    The next day, Miami-Dade's chief juvenile court judge, Circuit Judge Cindy Lederman, brought the girl back to court. When two attorneys who had been in court the day before complained about Eig's comments, Lederman apologized to the girl.

    ''That should never have happened,'' Lederman told the girl. ``I'm so sorry.''

    Jacqui Colyer, the new regional administrator for the Department of Children & Families, said she intends to discuss the girl's case -- and the proper treatment of abused and neglected children in court -- with Eig next week.

    ''We will let him know more about the children we come in contact with every day, and how vulnerable each of the children are,'' Colyer said.

    ''His language,'' Colyer added, ''was a little bit harsher than you would ever want any child to hear from someone in authority.'' Colyer said she had reviewed transcripts of the case and discussed it with her subordinates this week.

    Colyer said she was told Lederman would be discussing Eig's behavior with him, as well, but Lederman declined to discuss the matter with a reporter.

    In a statement released to The Miami Herald by the Miami judiciary's spokeswoman, Eunice Sigler, Eig expressed regret at the language he used to scold the teen.

    ''The child in this case had been running away,'' Sigler wrote in a short statement. ``Judge Eig regrets that the language he used was strong, but it was his intention to try to warn the child about the dangers of life on the street, and what people could do to her. His intention was to help, not harm.''

    The girl, who is not being identified by The Herald to protect her privacy, had been living with a school bus driver under the authority of DCF. In recent weeks, caseworkers testified, she ran away from the home, though she continued to go to school every morning.

    At the hearing Tuesday, Eig asked the girl why she ran away.

    At first, the girl replied, ''Cause she mean.'' But, a few moments later, she told the judge the woman hit her and cussed at her.

    But Eig told the teen she had no better alternatives. ''It's time for you to get over whatever bad experiences you had,'' he said.

    Eig told the girl she would be treated worse at the next place child welfare administrators sent her.

    ``You're going to keep your stuff in a box and every few months someone's going to be mean to you, then you're going to get upset about it and you're going to yell and scream and then, unlike regular children, which they wait for to calm down, they're going to call the police and going to come and [involuntarily commit] you.

    ''Then they're going to hold you in a psychiatric ward and pump drugs into you,'' he continued. ``That's the future you're buying for yourself . . . No one's going to love you.''

    Child welfare sources who looked into the hearing said the girl was crying throughout the lecture.
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  • #2
    I think the judge had the right idea, in that the teen should know what a future on the street could hold, but this was way over the top and a lot more than was necessary.
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    What pic are you looking at. Its a babbons @55

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    • #3
      toothless, dead crack whore
      Or, what the judge REALLY meant: One of my Greyhound Passengers

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      • #4
        Wow, what a bunch of wussies. We had one of our most prolific junkie thieves in court a while ago. The judge commented: "You can only be paying for your addiction through prostitution or theft. Since you're too unattractive to be a prostitute, I presume you're stealing."

        D'you think someone would have complained about that?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cockney Corner. View Post
          Wow, what a bunch of wussies. We had one of our most prolific junkie thieves in court a while ago. The judge commented: "You can only be paying for your addiction through prostitution or theft. Since you're too unattractive to be a prostitute, I presume you're stealing."

          D'you think someone would have complained about that?
          Ohhh thats funny.... Tha truth hurts, hurts my ribs.... Ya know, I'm start'in ta like you limeys....Ya might be weak on firearm ownership but not on crack whores....
          Originally posted by mookster
          Sully, usually I hafta glance over your posts cuz my brain would have issues with the imagery you portray, however with that one I get it. I agree one hundred percent with ya.
          Originally posted by CityCopDC
          I swear to god you are not human. I know a rogue VI when I see one.
          Originally posted by OfficerDotCom
          I think no one is probably happier than Sully and I that we ARE NOT the same person.(seriously thanking God for that one).
          -Frank




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          • #6
            We need more judges who tell it like it is. The chief judge who made him apologize should apologize for being a simpering Nancy.
            Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. - Ronald Reagan

            I don't think It'll happen in the US because we don't trust our government. We are a country of skeptics, raised by skeptics, founded by skeptics. - Amaroq

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            • #7
              It is what it is. Its a truth statement, giving the kid a heads up on where she is headed.
              I bet that by the time she is 19 she is in rehab at least twice, has a baby or is pregnant and has a boyfriend with a rap sheet.

              And the Mother beats and curses her? send her to foster care.what brought them to that last place......and of course the chance to return to where she needs to be.
              One bright spot that MIGHT help.....give her a tour of a female state jail where the inmates can talk to her, let her tour the morgue on unidentified Jane Doe's and
              ‘Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.’
              Oscar Wilde

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              • #8
                caseworkers testified, she ran away from the home, though she continued to go to school every morning.
                At least she is smart enough to know she needs an education.
                ‘Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.’
                Oscar Wilde

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cockney Corner. View Post
                  Wow, what a bunch of wussies. We had one of our most prolific junkie thieves in court a while ago. The judge commented: "You can only be paying for your addiction through prostitution or theft. Since you're too unattractive to be a prostitute, I presume you're stealing."

                  D'you think someone would have complained about that?
                  OMG that is amazingly funny... I always love it when a judge drops the verbal hammer on some ******bag in court.

                  Be real though... if someone doesnt tell this brat where she is going, by the time she figures it out she isnt going to be in a position to turn it around
                  "If and eye for an eye leave the whole world blind, then why the **** are gun toting gangbangers still hitting things?!!"

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                  • #10
                    The ultra liberals have goaded our society into having to be politically correct when making any public or recorded statement. We are fast becoming a country of automatons who articulate in a manner in which I am unaccustomed.

                    We must refer to those who have entered this country illegally as "Undocumented Aliens." No longer can you refer to a person's intellect as depressed, the are "mentally challenged."

                    The labor forces are not immune:

                    * Janitor = Sanitary engineer
                    * Bus driver = transportation specialist
                    * Dishwasher = Dinnerware sterilization specialist
                    * Waiter/waitress = food server
                    * Short order cook = timely meal specialist
                    * baker = Sundry specialist
                    * Ditch digger = Trench engineer
                    * Prostitute = Purveyor of intimate satisfaction
                    * Judge = Penal Rectifier
                    * Steward(ess) - flight attendant
                    and, on and on.

                    I am happy to be retired because I don't have to worry about being politically correct.

                    BTW, don't blame me I changed political parties years ago!!!
                    Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence!

                    [George Washington (1732 - 1799)]

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                    • #11
                      Let's hope the reporter made a note on her 2013 calendar to look up the defendant and count her teeth.

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                      • #12
                        I wish I could find video of this Miami judge YELLING at a female who was upset that the judge wouldn't give her brother (a drug dealing gang banger) a lower bond...
                        “The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed."

                        "You go for a man hard enough and fast enough, he don't have time to think about how many's with him; he thinks about himself, and how he might get clear of that wrath that's about to set down on him."

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                        • #13
                          Once again, political correctness triumphs over truth and common sense. The fact is, we need more Judges and other public officials who can tell the truth. This warm and fuzzy, it takes a village nonsense will be the death of this country. That young lady was told exactly what she needed to hear. But now that the wusses have had their day, she could very well end up in exactly the state the Judge warned her about. I'd like to be wrong about that, but I don't think I am.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BBM View Post
                            Or, what the judge REALLY meant: One of my Greyhound Passengers
                            He could've said that and not gotten in trouble! Means the same thing, right?


                            I like this judge, and the one thats on Speeders, though shes let a few cases slide that shouldn't of... she should be ordered to work in jail with these people, see where she could end up and what she could look like.

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                            • #15
                              [QUOTE=Southflaguy;1682119]When keeping it real goes wrong...

                              what a great song =]
                              son, if you keep this up, soon you'll inherit the family mullet!

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