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    I just saw this on youtube and I know some will question if it was a clean shoot or not.... I don't care about that at all he was warned numerous times and paid the price for his stupidity, I'm just wondering how the hell the camera got in it's location? Or better yet a little more information pertaining to the incident?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NunQGSbJzv4


    At 2:50 seconds the incident will unfold.
    Last edited by djblank87; 09-17-2008, 04:11 PM.

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    Originally posted by djblank87 View Post
    I just saw this on youtube and I know some will question if it was a clean shoot or not.... I don't care about that at all he was warned numerous times and paid the price for his stupidity, I'm just wondering how the hell the camera got in it's location? Or better yet a little more information pertaining to the incident?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NunQGSbJzv4


    At 2:50 seconds the incident will unfold.
    This incident occurred MANY years ago.......the camera was there because it was brought to the scene by the Sgt.......

    I think it has been discussed a couple of times here on the boards.
    The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

    "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

    "We fight not for glory; nor for wealth; nor honor, but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"

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    • #3
      Uhhh....I'm not a K-9 officer but I do work with our team and from what I understand about the utilization of dogs that K-9 should have NEVER been sent into that situation. Of course I was not there, but I would surmise there was a breakdown in communication.
      "We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." -President Ronald Reagan

      Good people sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - George Orwell

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      • #4
        Paperhanger.....

        check your PM.....
        The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

        "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

        "We fight not for glory; nor for wealth; nor honor, but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"

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        • #5
          Got it. Thanks.
          "We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." -President Ronald Reagan

          Good people sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - George Orwell

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LA DEP View Post
            This incident occurred MANY years ago.......the camera was there because it was brought to the scene by the Sgt.......

            I think it has been discussed a couple of times here on the boards.
            That makes sense, I figured it had to be one officers/tactical teams that placed it there or the suspect was in the right place at the right time so to speak.

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            • #7
              Poor K9. Very unfortunate.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LA DEP View Post
                This incident occurred MANY years ago.......the camera was there because it was brought to the scene by the Sgt.......

                I think it has been discussed a couple of times here on the boards.
                http://forums.officer.com/forums/sho...andre+Brunston

                Here's one I was able to find here. I couldn't find anything else online beyond some "news" articles from the People's Weekly World and a wikipedia entry.

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                • #9
                  you know what would have been good here? a snipe rifle with tranquilizer darts. Just pop him once, wait for him to pass out, remove the threat, Voila!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Presence View Post
                    you know what would have been good here? a snipe rifle with tranquilizer darts. Just pop him once, wait for him to pass out, remove the threat, Voila!
                    It works in the movies!!!!! Why not in real life?????
                    Space for rent .........

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Presence View Post
                      you know what would have been good here? a snipe rifle with tranquilizer darts. Just pop him once, wait for him to pass out, remove the threat, Voila!
                      Yeah....except when someone dies from being overdosed by the tranquilizer darts......then we get sued for that too.....

                      what would have worked here?.....him giving up would have ended it without further violence......the suspect often dictates his/her own fate by their actions......
                      The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

                      "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

                      "We fight not for glory; nor for wealth; nor honor, but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"

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                      • #12
                        Easy there, I didn't mean the tranquilizer comment seriously...though I have to say it sounds good in theory. i know people will sue over anything these days.

                        I agree, he should have given up.

                        i was just trying to add a little humor to this frustrating and sad (for the dog) situation.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Presence View Post
                          Easy there, I didn't mean the tranquilizer comment seriously...though I have to say it sounds good in theory. i know people will sue over anything these days.

                          I agree, he should have given up.

                          i was just trying to add a little humor to this frustrating and sad (for the dog) situation.
                          The tranq gun honestly doesn't even sound good in theory....the drug takes far too long to take effect......as well as the difficulty in properly guessing the dosage needed ect ect......

                          The situation is even MORE frustrating when you know some of the details of the incident that I wont post on a public board......
                          The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

                          "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

                          "We fight not for glory; nor for wealth; nor honor, but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Presence View Post
                            Easy there, I didn't mean the tranquilizer comment seriously...though I have to say it sounds good in theory. i know people will sue over anything these days.

                            I agree, he should have given up.

                            i was just trying to add a little humor to this frustrating and sad (for the dog) situation.
                            Typically I'm not one to value the life of an animal over a human, but in this case I felt bad seeing the dog fearlessly doing what it's trained for and paying the ultimate price. I couldn't tell, but I'm guessing the distressed/P.O.'d off commentary I hear in the video is coming from the dog handler? I can't imagine how hard it would be to see your dog being caught in the middle of friendly fire like that. From what I've read (from wikipedia, mind you) the officers were ordered to release the dog.

                            I couldn't find anything online and I was wondering if there were any legal actions taken out against the department/officers? I read that it turned out he didn't have a gun, although the officers couldn't have possibly known that until afterwards because he was hiding the object (a flip-flop) from their view. To me it seems like the guy wanted to die and that day he got his wish.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by insomniac View Post
                              Typically I'm not one to value the life of an animal over a human, but in this case I felt bad seeing the dog fearlessly doing what it's trained for and paying the ultimate price. I couldn't tell, but I'm guessing the distressed/P.O.'d off commentary I hear in the video is coming from the dog handler? I can't imagine how hard it would be to see your dog being caught in the middle of friendly fire like that. From what I've read (from wikipedia, mind you) the officers were ordered to release the dog.
                              What would Officer Paul Stephens have to say about it?

                              I do find it a little interesting they rush to give aid to the dog before the human.
                              Last edited by itnstalln; 09-18-2008, 07:25 PM.

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