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    Although Tasers have been an effective tool for Houston police, officers have used the stuns guns most often on black suspects and the stun guns have not lead to a reduction in shootings of civilians, according to an audit released today.

    The audit, overseen by Controller Annise Parker, examined some 1,400 incidents in which Houston police officers used Tasers during a two and a half year period.

    "I want this audit to lead to discussions with the minority community and within the Houston Police Department about how and when Tasers should be used," Parker said. "We believe the Taser has been an effective intermediate weapon. ... Our concern is that there may be a disconnect between what the public believes is the way these should be used and how officers are using them."

    The audit was initiated last year as public criticism of police Taser use swelled, prompting calls for tighter restrictions on Taser use, if not a moratorium.

    Parker's team offered a series of recommendations to better monitor Taser use including the suggestions that HPD study each incident in which an officer shocks a suspect more than four times and that HPD track officers who use their Tasers frequently. The audit found that two HPD officers have used their Tasers more than 13 times — far more than any other officers on the force.

    "The department ought to be aware and monitor officers who use their (Tasers) more frequently than other individuals," Parker told the City Council public safety committee this morning.

    HPD moved to arm most of its officers with Tasers late in 2004, one year after officers shot and killed two unarmed teens, sparking calls for a reduction in such shootings. Police Chief Harold Hurtt, who successfully reduced officer shootings in his pervious post in Phoenix, endorsed the stun guns as a way to curb the use of deadly force and City Council approved a $4.7 million contract.

    In the years since, HPD officers have relied on their Tasers regularly, collectively using them at a rate of once a day. During this time, HPD officials said, officers' on-the-job injuries have dropped, with workers compensation claims falling to all-time lows.

    Despite these gains, public controversy has grown. One flashpoint for conflict was a November 2005 encounter between Texans offensive lineman Fred Weary and HPD officers during a traffic stop. An officer shocked Weary, who was arrested and charged with resisting arrest, only to have a judge later dismiss the charge as baseless.

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    That's not a fair assessment. Not all factors are taken into account. In high crime areas, what portion of that population is black? I get called racist all the time at the club I work at. Saturday nights is Hip Hop night, and literally 95% of the people in there are black. So whenever I throw someone out (Which is extremely often) they are almost always black. Does that make me racist?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by KY Blue 72 View Post
      That's not a fair assessment. Not all factors are taken into account. In high crime areas, what portion of that population is black? I get called racist all the time at the club I work at. Saturday nights is Hip Hop night, and literally 95% of the people in there are black. So whenever I throw someone out (Which is extremely often) they are almost always black. Does that make me racist?
      Nope, not at all. You're doing your job. And I'm sure they'd rather be tased then shot. At least I would.
      Don't tase me bro!!

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      • #4
        Thx for the heads up chickee. Ill remember that when Im on my way to Texas, in my chevy chevelle, doing 145 mph while while popping viagra pills and listening to "2 Live Crew."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CityCopDC View Post
          Thx for the heads up chickee. Ill remember that when Im on my way to Texas, in my chevy chevelle, doing 145 mph while while popping viagra pills and listening to "2 Live Crew."
          You have a Chevy Chevelle?
          Don't tase me bro!!

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          • #6
            When I worked patrol the beat I worked most was about 80-90% hispanic......so if I used my Taser about 80-90% of the time it was on Hispanics....... statistics can be twisted to show whatever result the person doing the twisting wants.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by qixfeet View Post
              You have a Chevy Chevelle?
              it's the listening to 2 Live Crew that has me worried....thats way old school.
              It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.

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              • #8
                Maybe it is that blacks in that area act in ways with the poloice that make the taser necessary. Of course THAT will not be investigated.
                Space for rent .........

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                • #9
                  I can tell you guys for a fact that most people don't understand that there is anything wrong with passive resistance. That's why there are so many issues about use of force.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CityCopDC View Post
                    Thx for the heads up chickee. Ill remember that when Im on my way to Texas, in my chevy chevelle, doing 145 mph while while popping viagra pills and listening to "2 Live Crew."
                    *snickers*







                    *snickers more***

                    Thanks I needed a good laugh!
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                    • #11
                      I'm impressed that CityCop drives a Chevelle! Classic muscle all the way, baby!!

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                      • #12

                        What if the article were spun to read:

                        "Study Finds Blacks More Likely To Engage In Behavior That Results In Taser Usage By Houston Police"

                        instead?

                        Just sayin'........................


                        Things can be spun many different ways. The media have a job that often involves straddling the line between reporting news and making news.


                        Now, regarding the Chevelle, make mine a jade green 1970 SS (LS6 454 w/4speed manual) with black stripes and black interior. Yeah, baby - Old school muscle!!!!



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                        Last edited by VA Dutch; 09-08-2008, 08:24 PM.

                        The comments above reflect my personal opinion as a private citizen, ordinary motorist and all-around good guy.

                        The aforementioned advice should not be construed to represent any type of professional opinion, legal counsel or other type of instruction with regard to traffic laws, judicial proceedings or official agency policy.

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                        • #13
                          Figures Lie and Liars Figure.....
                          LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO DRINK CHEAP BEER!

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                          • #14
                            This so reminds me of the profiling stink that came out of a study of the arrest stats in one of the cities in Ontario (can't think of which one off the top of my head now). According to the stats, the local PD there arrested 75% more people of colour and the foo fooers used this to point out that profiling was rampant.

                            What was NOT mentioned by the foo fooers were the demographics of the city in question, namely, 72% of the population was people of colour...

                            Could care less if the foo fooers are liberal or not. What burns me is trying to massage data.

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                            • #15
                              Ok, let me chime in, this AUDIT is absolute bullshakens and only fuels the retards and black panther rejects.
                              I live in a parish "county" that is 51% white and 47%black and 1% other. Now I'm a city cop and in the city limits it's 75% black 24% white and 1% other. All the crime in the city is committed 98% of the time by blacks. I have worked for this department for over a year on the road. I have only arrested 3 white people 2 were DWI. I am looooooong past keeping count of the black arrests. The white people in my city stay out of trouble, they go to work and go home. with the exception of their literally 1% of criminals.

                              Now if they did a survey in my city they would say we single out blacks and only arrest blacks. Well until they tell us we can go into the white neighborhoods and arrest white people for nothing other than to even out the statistics, I guess the majority of my customers will just keep being black huh? I don't commit the crimes just arrest people who do, and in my city blacks commit most of the crimes. Now before you say RACIST.

                              I'm black or considered anyways, it's Louisiana, if you have anything other than pure white, your black. My Grandmother was white and was born in France, and My Grandfather her husband was a cajun, but my father has black in him so I'm considered legally black here in Louisiana, hince the name Creolecop, LOL

                              Flip this and out in the parish areas (unincorporated) the Sheriffs office arrest more whites there, cause guess where the population of whites is greater, yes in the parish, so they have a much greater chance of arresting a white person then I do here in the city.

                              Now if I come across a black person, with loud music, suspended D.L. and a traffic warrant because he forgot to pay a seat belt ticket, I most likely will arrest him if he has a criminal past worth noting.

                              now same situation but with a white guy. Now lets say this white guy has no criminal history except for a few traffic tickets. Think back to my city, majority is black, therefore I'm likely to run into a black person who has been arrested before than a white person (speaking of people who live in the city) I may let him go with tickets, and a warning to take care of that seat belt warrant. Why, NOT BECAUSE HE IS WHITE. but because he is not a trouble maker in the city. Not saying the black guy necessarily is either, just stating that I'm most likely to run into a black person in my city with a criminal record, vs a white person, because of the lopsided ratio of demographics in the city, which directly correlates to demographics of criminals. More black criminals in the city here, more white criminals in the parish areas here. simple as that.

                              These studies aren't worth the time to write and print them.
                              Last edited by creolecop; 09-08-2008, 10:47 PM.
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