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“There was no disturbance until (law enforcement) made one,†Noble said.
EXACTLY. THE GUY WAS THERE TO EXERCISE HIS RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE, AND PARTICIPATE IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS.
Instead, Berosh said, it’s a battle between two constitutional rights: The right to bear arms and the right to assemble peaceably and without fear.
DOES THIS GUY REALLY BELIEVE THIS? WHAT A BUNCH OF NON-SENSE. BOTH (ALL) CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS APPLY TO BOTH PEOPLE INVOLVED. IF OBAMA WANTED TO ATTEND THE RALLY WITH A HOG LEG STRAPPED ON, SO BE IT. BEROSH IS AN IDIOT.
“No constitutional right pre-empts the other,†Berosh said.
YEAH, AND THEY DON'T CANCEL EACH OTHER OUT EITHER, MORON. IT'S LIKE SAYING YOU CAN BE A CATHOLIC, BUT YOU CAN'T VOTE AT THE SAME TIME... OR YOU CAN GO TO CHURCH, BUT YOU HAVE TO SHUT UP.
Berosh said Noble did not have the right to alarm anyone around him attending the Barack Obama rally in Irvine Park.
THE MAN DID NOTHING TO ALARM ANYONE. WE, AS AN ARMED SOCIETY, CAN'T HELP SOME PEOPLE ARE AFRAID IF THEIR OWN SHADOWS. LET'S SAY A BUNCH OF UN-ARMED CRIPS SHOW UP AT THE RALLY, AND CAUSE NO PROBLEMS, BUT SEVERAL OLD PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE "FRIGHTENED", YOU GONNA ARREST THEM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY LOOK, OR ARE DRESSED? SO WHY DO IT TO SOME GUY THAT WEARS HIS FIREARM EVERYWHERE ELSE?
While Noble’s intentions might not have been sinister, Berosh said, “The people who don’t know him don’t know that.â€
THEY "MIGHT" NOT HAVE BEEN?? HOW ABOUT, THEY WERE NOT. SO, THE POLICE WERE REQUIRED TO ARREST HIM, AND TAKE HIS GUN, BECAUSE IDIOTS RULE!!!
Noble said he had no ill intent and that Obama’s constitutional rights didn’t take precedence over his.
EXACTLY. NO ONE'S RIGHTS TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER ANYONE ELSE'S. HE HAD JUST AS MUCH RIGHT BEING ARMED, AS OBAMA DID SPEAKING THERE.
THE INCIDENT
Noble was standing in McIntosh Park, next to Irvine Park, when people noticed that he was packing a gun in a holster and notified sheriff’s deputies.
YOU MEAN OPENLY CARRYING LEGALLY??? PACKING??? KINDA SOUNDS SINISTER, DON'T IT? TELL ME THE AUTHOR IS NOT BIASED...
After a brief confrontation Noble was taken into custody, and his gun, a Glock 9mm, was confiscated. He was questioned by state police and released.
BOTH VIOLATIONS OF HIS RIGHTS. HOPE THE DEPARTMENT HAS SOME CASH ON HAND... IF THIS GUY GETS A GOOD LAWYER... LOOK OUT. OF COURSE YOU WON'T SEE THE ACLU REPRESENTING HIM. THEY ARE ANTI-GUN TOO.
Deputies and state police have said Noble did not threaten anyone with the gun, and it remained in his holster until it was confiscated. The gun hasn’t been returned yet.
SO... THE ONLY ISSUE WAS HE WAS EXERCISING HIS RIGHT TO BE ARMED... SAD...
THE FALLOUT
On Friday, state police charged Noble with one count each of disorderly conduct and disrupting meetings and processions.
ACCORDING TO WHAT I JUST READ, I REALLY DON'T SEE NOBEL BEING ANY TYPE OF DISORDERLY, AND PROBABLY WASN'T UNTIL HE WAS CONFRONTED FOR NO REASON BUT TO TAKE HIS WEAPON AWAY.
State police wrote in a criminal complaint that they think Noble intended to disrupt the rally, because he posted a message on a Web site just before the rally telling people to “bring their guns and Bibles.â€
BOTH OF WHICH ARE STILL LEGAL?? THEY HAVEN'T OUTLAWED BIBLES YET, RIGHT?
State police said Noble put others around him in fear for their safety and that law enforcement agents had to abandon their posts at the Obama rally to deal with Noble.
SORRY, BUT THAT IS JUST GARBAGE, NON-SENSE. DID ANY OF THE ARMED SECURITY DETAIL, OR HUNDREDS OF ARMED COPS PUT ANYONE IN FEAR??? NO. AND, EVERYONE THERE IS SUPPOSED TO PUT THEIR SECURITY FAITH IN OBAMA'S SECURITY DETAIL??? LET ME CLUE YOU IN... IF THE BULLETS START FLYING, THEY WILL BE PROTECTING OBAMA, NOT YOU, OR YOUR KIDS.
State police did say that Noble did not illegally possess his weapon.
WELL, AT LEAST THAT IS THE TRUTH!!!
Federal authorities said they would not file charges against Noble because he did not enter Irvine Park. To do so, he would have had to pass through a metal detector.
THE FEDS DIDN'T ARREST HIM, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. WERE THERE ANY NOTICES POSTED SAYING THAT GUNS WERE NOT ALLOWED WHERE HE WAS?
THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS
Beaver County Sheriff George David said a person who is wearing a gun in a holster, out in the open, doesn’t need a license to carry that weapon.
THIS INCIDENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LICENSING. IT IS ABOUT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. THE MAN HAD THE RIGHT TO BE ARMED, IF HE CHOSE TO BE. JUST BECAUSE SOCIETY AT LARGE DOES NOT GO AROUND "PACKING"... DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE GIVEN UP OUR RIGHTS. IF PEOPLE ALL OF A SUDDEN DECIDED THAT RELIGION WAS STUPID AND NO LONGER PARTOOK, WOULD WE START ARRESTING JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, OR BAPTISTS, ON THE COMPLAINT OF SCARED ATHEISTS? NONSENSE.
However, a person who wants to keep a weapon concealed on his body or carry it in a vehicle must obtain a license. Extra permission is necessary for a concealed weapon, David said, because a concealed weapon poses a greater danger to police.
AANY WEAPON POSES A POTENTIAL DANGER, AND PLENTY OF US LEO'S ARE SHOT WITH OUR OWN WEAPONS. A CONCEALED ONE IS NO MORE OR LESS DANGEROUS THAN AN OPENLY CARRIED ONE. PERSONALLY, I CAN SEE THAT A PERSON IS OPENLY CARRYING AND IT NEVER BOTHERED ME ONE BIT. THIS IS JUST ANTI-GUN DRIVEL WRITTEN BY FEAR MONGERS. DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING THE PRESS WRITES. IT IS OFTEN SLANTED, AND BLOWN UP TO MAKE NEWS. (IN OTHER WORDS... B.S.)
While David said he’s a gun advocate, he said Noble should not have taken the gun to the rally because of all the security present for Obama’s protection.
HE MIGHT THINK HE IS A GUN "ADVOCATE" BUT TO DENY SOMEONE A RIGHT, JUST BECAUSE OF FEAR OF OTHERS, IS NON-SENSE.
“I don’t think this was the time or the place to show your rights,†David said
SORRY AGAIN, BUT WE ARE TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR EXERCISING YOUR RIGHTS???? B.S. IS HE GONNA TELL US WE CAN'T GO TO CHURCH ANYTIME WE WANT, OR THAT WE CAN ONLY SPEAK WHEN AND IF WE ARE SPOKEN TO? WE CAN ONLY BE CATHOLIC ON SATURDAY, OR SUNDAY, AND NOT DURING THE WEEK, OR WHEN THERE ARE ATHEISTS PRESENT??? SOME FOLKS NEED TO LEARN THAT THE CONSTITUTION APPLIES ALL OF THE TIME, ANYWHERE, ANY PLACE, AND APPLIES TO EVERYBODY. IT AMAZES ME THAT, THEY CAN AND DO GIVE NAZI'S POLICE PROTECTION DURING THEIR RALLIES AND MARCHES, SO THEY CAN SPEW HATE SPEECH, BUT THIS LAW ABIDING CITIZEN GETS HOOKED UP... SAD... JUST SAD... .
EXACTLY. THE GUY WAS THERE TO EXERCISE HIS RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE, AND PARTICIPATE IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS.
Instead, Berosh said, it’s a battle between two constitutional rights: The right to bear arms and the right to assemble peaceably and without fear.
DOES THIS GUY REALLY BELIEVE THIS? WHAT A BUNCH OF NON-SENSE. BOTH (ALL) CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS APPLY TO BOTH PEOPLE INVOLVED. IF OBAMA WANTED TO ATTEND THE RALLY WITH A HOG LEG STRAPPED ON, SO BE IT. BEROSH IS AN IDIOT.
“No constitutional right pre-empts the other,†Berosh said.
YEAH, AND THEY DON'T CANCEL EACH OTHER OUT EITHER, MORON. IT'S LIKE SAYING YOU CAN BE A CATHOLIC, BUT YOU CAN'T VOTE AT THE SAME TIME... OR YOU CAN GO TO CHURCH, BUT YOU HAVE TO SHUT UP.
Berosh said Noble did not have the right to alarm anyone around him attending the Barack Obama rally in Irvine Park.
THE MAN DID NOTHING TO ALARM ANYONE. WE, AS AN ARMED SOCIETY, CAN'T HELP SOME PEOPLE ARE AFRAID IF THEIR OWN SHADOWS. LET'S SAY A BUNCH OF UN-ARMED CRIPS SHOW UP AT THE RALLY, AND CAUSE NO PROBLEMS, BUT SEVERAL OLD PEOPLE SAY THEY ARE "FRIGHTENED", YOU GONNA ARREST THEM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY LOOK, OR ARE DRESSED? SO WHY DO IT TO SOME GUY THAT WEARS HIS FIREARM EVERYWHERE ELSE?
While Noble’s intentions might not have been sinister, Berosh said, “The people who don’t know him don’t know that.â€
THEY "MIGHT" NOT HAVE BEEN?? HOW ABOUT, THEY WERE NOT. SO, THE POLICE WERE REQUIRED TO ARREST HIM, AND TAKE HIS GUN, BECAUSE IDIOTS RULE!!!
Noble said he had no ill intent and that Obama’s constitutional rights didn’t take precedence over his.
EXACTLY. NO ONE'S RIGHTS TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER ANYONE ELSE'S. HE HAD JUST AS MUCH RIGHT BEING ARMED, AS OBAMA DID SPEAKING THERE.
THE INCIDENT
Noble was standing in McIntosh Park, next to Irvine Park, when people noticed that he was packing a gun in a holster and notified sheriff’s deputies.
YOU MEAN OPENLY CARRYING LEGALLY??? PACKING??? KINDA SOUNDS SINISTER, DON'T IT? TELL ME THE AUTHOR IS NOT BIASED...
After a brief confrontation Noble was taken into custody, and his gun, a Glock 9mm, was confiscated. He was questioned by state police and released.
BOTH VIOLATIONS OF HIS RIGHTS. HOPE THE DEPARTMENT HAS SOME CASH ON HAND... IF THIS GUY GETS A GOOD LAWYER... LOOK OUT. OF COURSE YOU WON'T SEE THE ACLU REPRESENTING HIM. THEY ARE ANTI-GUN TOO.
Deputies and state police have said Noble did not threaten anyone with the gun, and it remained in his holster until it was confiscated. The gun hasn’t been returned yet.
SO... THE ONLY ISSUE WAS HE WAS EXERCISING HIS RIGHT TO BE ARMED... SAD...
THE FALLOUT
On Friday, state police charged Noble with one count each of disorderly conduct and disrupting meetings and processions.
ACCORDING TO WHAT I JUST READ, I REALLY DON'T SEE NOBEL BEING ANY TYPE OF DISORDERLY, AND PROBABLY WASN'T UNTIL HE WAS CONFRONTED FOR NO REASON BUT TO TAKE HIS WEAPON AWAY.
State police wrote in a criminal complaint that they think Noble intended to disrupt the rally, because he posted a message on a Web site just before the rally telling people to “bring their guns and Bibles.â€
BOTH OF WHICH ARE STILL LEGAL?? THEY HAVEN'T OUTLAWED BIBLES YET, RIGHT?
State police said Noble put others around him in fear for their safety and that law enforcement agents had to abandon their posts at the Obama rally to deal with Noble.
SORRY, BUT THAT IS JUST GARBAGE, NON-SENSE. DID ANY OF THE ARMED SECURITY DETAIL, OR HUNDREDS OF ARMED COPS PUT ANYONE IN FEAR??? NO. AND, EVERYONE THERE IS SUPPOSED TO PUT THEIR SECURITY FAITH IN OBAMA'S SECURITY DETAIL??? LET ME CLUE YOU IN... IF THE BULLETS START FLYING, THEY WILL BE PROTECTING OBAMA, NOT YOU, OR YOUR KIDS.
State police did say that Noble did not illegally possess his weapon.
WELL, AT LEAST THAT IS THE TRUTH!!!
Federal authorities said they would not file charges against Noble because he did not enter Irvine Park. To do so, he would have had to pass through a metal detector.
THE FEDS DIDN'T ARREST HIM, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. WERE THERE ANY NOTICES POSTED SAYING THAT GUNS WERE NOT ALLOWED WHERE HE WAS?
THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS
Beaver County Sheriff George David said a person who is wearing a gun in a holster, out in the open, doesn’t need a license to carry that weapon.
THIS INCIDENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LICENSING. IT IS ABOUT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. THE MAN HAD THE RIGHT TO BE ARMED, IF HE CHOSE TO BE. JUST BECAUSE SOCIETY AT LARGE DOES NOT GO AROUND "PACKING"... DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE GIVEN UP OUR RIGHTS. IF PEOPLE ALL OF A SUDDEN DECIDED THAT RELIGION WAS STUPID AND NO LONGER PARTOOK, WOULD WE START ARRESTING JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, OR BAPTISTS, ON THE COMPLAINT OF SCARED ATHEISTS? NONSENSE.
However, a person who wants to keep a weapon concealed on his body or carry it in a vehicle must obtain a license. Extra permission is necessary for a concealed weapon, David said, because a concealed weapon poses a greater danger to police.
AANY WEAPON POSES A POTENTIAL DANGER, AND PLENTY OF US LEO'S ARE SHOT WITH OUR OWN WEAPONS. A CONCEALED ONE IS NO MORE OR LESS DANGEROUS THAN AN OPENLY CARRIED ONE. PERSONALLY, I CAN SEE THAT A PERSON IS OPENLY CARRYING AND IT NEVER BOTHERED ME ONE BIT. THIS IS JUST ANTI-GUN DRIVEL WRITTEN BY FEAR MONGERS. DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING THE PRESS WRITES. IT IS OFTEN SLANTED, AND BLOWN UP TO MAKE NEWS. (IN OTHER WORDS... B.S.)
While David said he’s a gun advocate, he said Noble should not have taken the gun to the rally because of all the security present for Obama’s protection.
HE MIGHT THINK HE IS A GUN "ADVOCATE" BUT TO DENY SOMEONE A RIGHT, JUST BECAUSE OF FEAR OF OTHERS, IS NON-SENSE.
“I don’t think this was the time or the place to show your rights,†David said
SORRY AGAIN, BUT WE ARE TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR EXERCISING YOUR RIGHTS???? B.S. IS HE GONNA TELL US WE CAN'T GO TO CHURCH ANYTIME WE WANT, OR THAT WE CAN ONLY SPEAK WHEN AND IF WE ARE SPOKEN TO? WE CAN ONLY BE CATHOLIC ON SATURDAY, OR SUNDAY, AND NOT DURING THE WEEK, OR WHEN THERE ARE ATHEISTS PRESENT??? SOME FOLKS NEED TO LEARN THAT THE CONSTITUTION APPLIES ALL OF THE TIME, ANYWHERE, ANY PLACE, AND APPLIES TO EVERYBODY. IT AMAZES ME THAT, THEY CAN AND DO GIVE NAZI'S POLICE PROTECTION DURING THEIR RALLIES AND MARCHES, SO THEY CAN SPEW HATE SPEECH, BUT THIS LAW ABIDING CITIZEN GETS HOOKED UP... SAD... JUST SAD... .

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