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  • Fmr Teacher: Son In Police Brawl Is Autistic

    This thread is just a response to a post in the KCPD thread, which was slightly off topic. So I started a new thread.

    Originally posted by RunninCODE1 View Post
    According to these idiots, they think KCPD needs to stop ruffing them up at 40th and Prospect..... Does ruffing up include that blow to the face he gave the Officer?? Goes to show stuff can literally go down anywhere or anytime...

    http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/N...Y&pageId=3.1.1
    Here is an update, the son is autistic.

    http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/N...Y&pageId=3.2.1

    Fmr Teacher: Son In Police Brawl Is Autistic

    A former teacher says a 19-year-old who police said attacked officers and started a brawl at Kansas City Police Headquarters should never have been there.

    Willis Cole, Jr's former teacher says he suffers from a form of autism and it's sad what happened after Willis and his father came to KCPD headquarters.

    Kelley Yoekum said many mentally disabled struggle in transition to adulthood. Police said they handled the situation the best they could.

    Yoekum says Willis suffers from a form of autism and is kind and gentle. The 19-year-old now faces assault and hindering arrest charges. His father, Willis Cole Senior, faces assault and resisting arrest.

    Police said officers tried to cuff the father after he pounded on the counter. Willis Junior jumped in and punched an officer in the head. Officers used a taser to take control of the teen.

    His former teacher said it was a recipe for disaster and should have never happened.

    "He needs to be brought into situations like that with people having insight into what's going on with him," Yoekum said.

    Capt. Rich Lockhart said in a statement that, "officers had no warning of the attack or knowledge of Willis Jr's condition. Officers handled the situation as best as they could under the circumstances."

    Yoekum said the problem is, many parents of mentally disabled kids don't know how to care for them properly or can't afford to when they leave specialized schools and live at home.

    "We've really focused on early intervention and doing things when they're really young, but not doing things when they get older and what's happening there," Yoekum said.

    Yoekum said more attention and funding for mentally disabled people needs to be focused on their transition to adulthood and helping them lead a productive life and avoid problems.

    Both father and son were still in jail Thursday night for the assault. Police said if they know beforehand of someone with mental or emotional conditions, they have special officers respond.
    What is Perseverance?
    -Perseverance is commitment, hard work, patience, endurance.
    -Perseverance is being able to bear difficulties calmly and without complaint.
    -PERSEVERANCE IS TRYING AGAIN AND AGAIN.


    BOP - BPA - ICE

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    Theres nothing to discuss. People who have minor mental problems can go to jail just like everyone else.
    The liberal politician has the only job where they go to the office to work for everyone but those who pay their salary.

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    • #3
      GRAHAM v. CONNOR, 490 U.S. 386 (1989)

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      • #4
        Autism may explain the son's actions, but what about the father's actions?
        What is Perseverance?
        -Perseverance is commitment, hard work, patience, endurance.
        -Perseverance is being able to bear difficulties calmly and without complaint.
        -PERSEVERANCE IS TRYING AGAIN AND AGAIN.


        BOP - BPA - ICE

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        • #5
          I'm certainly not advocating any kind of violence against autistic people but seriously. Why is this relevent to the police reaction. There was no way at that moment for that officer to know he was autistic. You get hit in the face your going to react reguardless of the mental state of the attacker. If an autistic 19 year old is threatening an officer with a firearm is he expected to react differently. It's not an ideal situation but life is not ideal and the officer on scene has to react based on the facts he has at the time.

          Hobbsie

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          • #6
            Originally posted by hobbsie711 View Post
            There was no way at that moment for that officer to know he was autistic.
            Anyone looking for a detailed legal explanation of whether factors NOT known to an officer at the time an officer uses force, are relevant or not, please click on the link in post #5.

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            • #7
              I don't know why a former teacher would be sought out for the article, but the teacher doesn't understand that plenty of money is being spent to care for people with mild retardation or other similar mental problems. We have several in my areas apartment complexes who are enrolled in private, voluntary independent living programs paid for by the state. They have two staff members present at all times in that persons own residence and they manage their clients daily activities including finances. Every time the client becomes aggressive or doesn't want to be supervised or fails to cooperate, they call the police. Well, having mental problems isn't against the law, the person is in a voluntary program and is an adult, in age, with legal rights like any other citizen and any minor assault or threat on the staff is a misdemeanor not committed in our presence so what do these people want us to do about it. Most of the time they don't meet the criteria for emergency commitment, but when that does happen, they're right back at home and calling us again a few days later with the same problem.
              I don't know if any of you others here have these programs in your area, but it's becoming a real problem here. The person starts to get a little out of hand, as expected from time to time and these people want to dump the problem on us rather than have some other arrangements made in advance for a problem that they know will come up.
              The liberal politician has the only job where they go to the office to work for everyone but those who pay their salary.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TheKansan View Post
                Fmr Teacher: Son In Police Brawl Is Autistic
                Why is it a "police brawl"?

                IMarkVideo, are you reading this? THIS is why LEOs don't trust the media.
                "First of all, then we have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Al Sharpton, March 21, 2010

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                • #9
                  Autism is not mental retardation. They are not the same thing.

                  The Police Officers are not expected to know the young man's disabilities, which matter very little at the moment he is trying to hurt you (even if they do know).
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                  I don't agree with your opinion, but I respect its straightforwardness in terms of wrongness.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by equinox137 View Post
                    Why is it a "police brawl"?

                    IMarkVideo, are you reading this? THIS is why LEOs don't trust the media.
                    Exactly..... why not something along the lines of " Police officer attacked" or " Fathers outburst causes son to attack officer".

                    They dont word it that way because its sexier to toss out other terms that arent acurate.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Smurfette_76 View Post
                      Autism is not mental retardation. They are not the same thing.

                      The Police Officers are not expected to know the young man's disabilities, which matter very little at the moment he is trying to hurt you (even if they do know).
                      Typical.
                      I didn't say they were the same thing, it was a rebuttal to an assertion that no money is being spent to help similar people to 'transition' into society. Yeah,
                      we all already know that the officers didn't know about that guys 'disabilities' and they're not going to stand they're and take blows form anyone. Thats the easy part of the discussion so why should we all come here and talk about that.
                      I notice that with all these suppossed experienced police officers on the forums, no one really wants to go a little deeper into a dicussion to give the public a little more information about real problems we deal with everyday.
                      The liberal politician has the only job where they go to the office to work for everyone but those who pay their salary.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by juicesnn4e2
                        tony u wanna know my problems? right now in atlanta there is a black gay festivle AND this festilve called DRAGONCON, where all the worlds nerds come and dress up and fantasy stuff. just think about being in my shoes for a minute
                        Spell check: FESTIVAL

                        Now, for the matter at hand, what size are your shoes and how high are the heels?
                        Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence!

                        [George Washington (1732 - 1799)]

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                        • #13
                          Tony,

                          I wasn't arguing with you, I was making clarification. Because I deal with an autistic child, I helped write our classes on dealing with special populations. Our agency goes further than most around here by giving classes and having organizations come in to assist. There are several agencies on call 24/7 (here) to help with the mirage of issues we face when dealing with special populations.

                          I wasn't insulting you, hon.
                          sigpic

                          I don't agree with your opinion, but I respect its straightforwardness in terms of wrongness.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Smurfette_76 View Post
                            Autism is not mental retardation. They are not the same thing.

                            The Police Officers are not expected to know the young man's disabilities, which matter very little at the moment he is trying to hurt you (even if they do know).
                            +10 thousand.
                            ANYONE- disabled or not, that attacks any LEO is going to have consequences. I agree that this says volumes about his Father. Both (Father and Son) played into this outcome.
                            ‘Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.’
                            Oscar Wilde

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Smurfette_76 View Post
                              Tony,

                              I wasn't arguing with you, I was making clarification. Because I deal with an autistic child, I helped write our classes on dealing with special populations. Our agency goes further than most around here by giving classes and having organizations come in to assist. There are several agencies on call 24/7 (here) to help with the mirage of issues we face when dealing with special populations.

                              I wasn't insulting you, hon.
                              Sorry for the tone of my response. I took it the wrong way.
                              The liberal politician has the only job where they go to the office to work for everyone but those who pay their salary.

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