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    I was pulled over by a Las Vegas Metro officer yesterday and given a $190 ticket for having tags which expired 7 days prior. I never received any notification from the DMV that they expired in the middle of the month, so I assumed that, like the previous state in which I lived, that I had until the end of the month to renew.
    I was with my mom and 2 small kids in the car, we were all wearing seat belts, my license is valid and I had proof of insurance.
    As the officer was able to see, I have NO RECORD whatsoever, have never even been pulled over for speeding. I am a completely law-abiding citizen, and this was a totally honest mistake.
    The officer was beyond rude, and did so in front of my 2 kids.
    Is is normal to receive a ticket for this?!?!? Don't officers have discretion with respect to something like this??? I understand if they had been expired 30 days or more, as that seems to be more of a deliberate infraction, but COME ON!!!!

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    here in florida your registration expires at midnight on your birthday. i routinely cite people for this. i also like it when they tell me they didnt change their address so they never received the renewal notice. in floida not changing your address with the dhsmv is an arrestable offense. not receiving the renewal notice is not sufficient defense. i assume if you look at your copy of the registration is shows the issue and expiration dates.

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    • #3
      1. What does your prior record have to do with it? All that means is that you haven't gotten a ticket before. It does not mean that you have never violated a traffic law.

      2. It is solely your responsibility to read your registration when you register the car and know when it expires. The DMV has no obligation to send you a renewal notice. You assumed that Nevada was the same as your previous state.

      3. What does your mom and kids and seatbelts have to do with it?

      You could have asked the question and kept it simple without the drama.
      Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. - Ronald Reagan

      I don't think It'll happen in the US because we don't trust our government. We are a country of skeptics, raised by skeptics, founded by skeptics. - Amaroq

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      • #4
        You'd have to live and DRIVE in Las Vegas to understand your so-called "drama..." and what I call additional details. Nevada DOES send out renewal notices, as I received one addressed to the prior homeowners of my house. Additionally, my registration paperwork has no indication of the expiration date, and I changed my address with the DMV within one week of moving into my home last year, so they had my address. Apparently I need to get my crystal ball fixed....
        Last edited by VegasGirl74; 05-27-2008, 08:02 PM.

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        • #5
          Giving someone a citation for expired license plates that are 7 days past due is a chicken-$h!t arrest in my book. I don't do it. I'm more inclined to give someone a couple of weeks to get 'em taken care of. Now, I will stop for it, but 99.9% of the time, it is just a written warning.
          Why are there so many babies on O.com? Creole, you and your buddy JPSO Recruit help me out on this one....

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          • #6
            There is something missing here.... What were you originally pulled over for?

            I am sure that your tags (on the plate itself) only have a month and year, not a date. So the only way the officer would have known the tags were expired would be by verifying your registration after the stop. Don't fault the officer because you got caught. If your attitude during the stop was anything like your posts, I am not suprised.
            Last edited by SoCalSheriff; 05-27-2008, 08:53 PM.
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            • #7
              The officer could have run the plate on his MDC and gotten the registration expiration.
              Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. - Ronald Reagan

              I don't think It'll happen in the US because we don't trust our government. We are a country of skeptics, raised by skeptics, founded by skeptics. - Amaroq

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              • #8
                Originally posted by towncop View Post
                Giving someone a citation for expired license plates that are 7 days past due is a chicken-$h!t arrest in my book. I don't do it. I'm more inclined to give someone a couple of weeks to get 'em taken care of. Now, I will stop for it, but 99.9% of the time, it is just a written warning.

                you can arrest for a 7 day expired tag? we can only write a traffic citation for it. now if you have a prior conviction for expired more than 6 months and are driving on tags more than six months again we can arrest.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by VegasGirl74 View Post
                  I was pulled over by a Las Vegas Metro officer yesterday and given a $190 ticket for having tags which expired 7 days prior. I never received any notification from the DMV that they expired in the middle of the month, so I assumed that, like the previous state in which I lived, that I had until the end of the month to renew.

                  At some point you were given paperwork that details the expiration date of the registration....never assume anything.

                  I was with my mom and 2 small kids in the car, we were all wearing seat belts, my license is valid and I had proof of insurance.

                  It is great you were obeying the law as you should, but this has no bearing on what you were cited for. I'm sure you havent murdered someone too, but you dont need to include that......registration violations are violations.

                  As the officer was able to see, I have NO RECORD whatsoever, have never even been pulled over for speeding. I am a completely law-abiding citizen, and this was a totally honest mistake.

                  First of all, the officer may not know that you dont have a record. You could have had a dozen tickets in other states that dont show up on his record and once again has no bearing on what you were cited for. People are always saying that they are mad because they got a ticket when they have a clean record.......if nobody ever got a ticket then everybody would have a clean record now wouldnt they. Second of all....the law abiding citizen comment...... nobody accused you of being a mass murderer or a gang member, but you commit violations just like everybody else. I guarantee you have driven faster than the posted limit or faster than the maximum on the freeway.....you may be a safe driver, but its not like you have never comitted a violation...please dont confuse they two like so many others do.

                  The officer was beyond rude, and did so in front of my 2 kids.

                  That is an issue to take up with the department. Many times people get upset about receiving a ticket and start running their mouth giving out attitude and think its the officer who is being rude because he is not tolerating your abuse.....OR he was a rude officer. Take that issue up with the department and his demeanor has nothing to do with the ticket..thats for court.

                  Is is normal to receive a ticket for this?!?!?

                  Nothing is normal.....minor violations are handled differently by different officers. It was a violation and he wrote you for it.

                  Don't officers have discretion with respect to something like this??? I understand if they had been expired 30 days or more, as that seems to be more of a deliberate infraction, but COME ON!!!!
                  Before you think that I am jumping to defend another cop I will say that I have never issued a ticket for a 7 day expired registration and discretion on that stop might have served a better purpose. IF you were polite and calm then a warning probably would have handled the situation just fine, but IF you were giving attitude then you get what you get....only you truly know the answer to that. Might I also suggest that if you are in a new state you grab a copy of the vehicle code or find a DMV website so you can brush up on some of your new home states laws. Good luck.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by VegasGirl74 View Post
                    I was pulled over by a Las Vegas Metro officer yesterday and given a $190 ticket for having tags which expired 7 days prior. I never received any notification from the DMV that they expired in the middle of the month, so I assumed that, like the previous state in which I lived, that I had until the end of the month to renew.
                    I was with my mom and 2 small kids in the car, we were all wearing seat belts, my license is valid and I had proof of insurance.
                    As the officer was able to see, I have NO RECORD whatsoever, have never even been pulled over for speeding. I am a completely law-abiding citizen, and this was a totally honest mistake.
                    The officer was beyond rude, and did so in front of my 2 kids.
                    Is is normal to receive a ticket for this?!?!? Don't officers have discretion with respect to something like this??? I understand if they had been expired 30 days or more, as that seems to be more of a deliberate infraction, but COME ON!!!!
                    I guess if he let you go, he would have been a cool cop???

                    At a minimum you have lived in Las Vegas a year, since your plates expire one year to the day they were issued. I have lived here 16 years and don't seem to have a problem remembering to renew them. It is not up to DMV to remind you that your vehicle registration is going to expire. As a courtesy, they allow you to renew your plates through the mail.

                    To answer your question, yes it is normal to receive a citation for a traffic offense. (Expired License Plates) It is not normal to receive a warning.

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                    • #11
                      In Cali, we can cite for expired reg on the next day. And you can get cited more than once. (by different officers) The date of expiration is on the registration that should be in your glove box. We also have the option of "checking" a box where the cite becomes a fix it ticket. You correct the problem, get it signed off and send an administration fee of $15.00.

                      Don't know if they have that option in NV. Perhaps it was a zero tolerance day, where the officer doesn't have the option. Check the citation and see.

                      You might have your panties in a knot for nothing.

                      Remember....Attitude is everything.
                      Last edited by deputy x 2; 05-27-2008, 10:56 PM.
                      This profession is not for people looking for positive reinforcement from the public. Very often it can be a thankless job and you can't desire accolades, because those are not usually forthcoming. Just do your job to the best of your ability and live with the decisions you've made.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by luckydog View Post
                        you can arrest for a 7 day expired tag? we can only write a traffic citation for it. now if you have a prior conviction for expired more than 6 months and are driving on tags more than six months again we can arrest.
                        No, we can't. I think he meant cite. It's a $75 ticket and a possible tow and walk.

                        I give 15 days before I cite on permanent plates, and if less than 60 days if they show up to court with proof they renewed I'll drop it.

                        That's just me, though. You're responsible for renewing your plates and if you get a warning its a break, not an entitlement.
                        I miss you, Dave.
                        http://www.odmp.org/officer/20669-of...david-s.-moore

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by VegasGirl74 View Post
                          You'd have to live and DRIVE in Las Vegas
                          I just spent 7 days in Vegas, I didn't think anything was wrong with the driver's there. Even though everyone in the class I took, kept saying people there were lousy drivers. Though the one guy I cut off, did give me the finger

                          Here in MD, we can cite you as soon as it expires, but I have never written it and probably will not (unless i tell you to fix it and then see you again a short time later). But will stop you for it.
                          Dispatch, we have a 9-11, Armed Robbery in progress. Seay's Surplus Store, corner People's Drive and 124th Street.

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                          • #14
                            It would be a misdemeanor here - and arrestable, though I have never seen someone actually taken to jail (solely) for expired registration. The grace period for renewal is the 364 days leading up to the expiration date!

                            What I think is funny is that 9 times out of 10 when you stop someone for expired registration they tell you either a) they are on their way to the tag office right now or b) that they were planning on going tomorrow. It really gets funny when you remind them that it is a state holiday and no public offices are open!
                            ---Cut the red wire---

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by towncop View Post
                              Giving someone a citation for expired license plates that are 7 days past due is a chicken-$h!t arrest in my book. I don't do it. I'm more inclined to give someone a couple of weeks to get 'em taken care of. Now, I will stop for it, but 99.9% of the time, it is just a written warning.
                              Just because you would not do it does not mean you get to sh** on another officer for doing so. We all decide when to use discretion, and since you have posted quite a bit here, you know there are two sides to every story. From the attitude thrown on her first post, I would not be surprised if the officer on scene had a little thrown his way as well. Don't be so quick to knock an officer from a first-time poster.
                              I'm 10-8 like a shark in a sea of crime..

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