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    thanks for all the replies to my last post. i have another question regarding myself. I was pulled over yesterday for not having my rear plate on (i was washing the car and took it off) an obvious error on my part and a just reason to be stopped...anyways the officer who pulled me over wasn't in uniform...he was in a patrol car but he was wearing slacks and a polo

    so i have a few questions (not that i'm gonna fight what he said about my plate) I just want to know what rules there are for officers pulling people over.

    1) does an officer need to be in uniform to give a ticket (speeding etc.)

    2) does an officer need to be wearing a hat to give a ticket (again speeding or otherwise. i've heard rumors that an officer must be wearing his hat to give tickets??? )

    3) can an off-duty officer (say he is on his way home) give a ticket...

    thanks much

  • #2
    1. no
    2. no
    3. yes

    If he wasn't wearing his uniform, wasn't wearing his hat and he was off duty and on his way home, if he couldn't have ticketed you, he wouldn't have.

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    • #3
      I really wonder what people are thinking when they think you have to be in uniform or even worse have your hat on. I hate to tell you that the uniform and hat isn't what gives an officer his authority.

      Also. He doesn't even have to be in a police car. If he pulls up to you and waves you over and you were able to identify him as an officer, you better pull over.
      Last edited by Stare; 09-17-2007, 06:25 PM.

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      • #4
        1. no
        2. no
        3. yes
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        • #5
          Glad you don't have to be wearing a hat for god sakes. My department doesn't issue hats as standard gear. We can buy one w/ our own money if we want one. Phew, all of those tickets I've written would have been thrown out of court. Dogged the bullet on that one.
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          • #6
            In Indiana the officer has to be:

            1) In a marked police car

            -OR-

            2) In a police uniform

            to initiate a traffic stop. If another officer makes the stop, a out-of-uniform officer in an unmarked/personal car can still write a ticket.
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            • #7
              No
              No. Are you really serious about the hat question. Sounds kinda stupid.
              Yes
              John 3:16

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              • #8
                Sounds like legit questions..

                You would be amazed at the myths floating around out in the John Q Publics mind.
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                • #9
                  Did he have his hat on? That is the question.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jthorpe View Post
                    1. no
                    2. no
                    3. yes

                    If he wasn't wearing his uniform, wasn't wearing his hat and he was off duty and on his way home, if he couldn't have ticketed you, he wouldn't have.
                    he didn't give me a ticket, just told me to get the plate back on. you said no, no, yes but below you said that you said that if he wasn't in uniform, he couldn't have given me a ticket... are you saying that an officer without a uniform or hat or off duty can pull you over but not give a ticket? so then does the officer need to be in uniform or on duty to write a ticket???

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                    • #11
                      Sabbx,

                      You need to read the replies. This one answers it completely.

                      Originally posted by Stare View Post
                      I hate to tell you that the uniform and hat isn't what gives an officer his authority.
                      *******

                      Originally posted by saabx View Post
                      he didn't give me a ticket, just told me to get the plate back on. you said no, no, yes but below you said that you said that if he wasn't in uniform, he couldn't have given me a ticket... are you saying that an officer without a uniform or hat or off duty can pull you over but not give a ticket? so then does the officer need to be in uniform or on duty to write a ticket???
                      Laws vary from state to state, the officer from Indiana gave you the law there, that does not mean it applies to all states. In short, if you feel that the officer needed a uniform or hat on, mention it next time. I'm pretty sure you'll get a ticket and then you can ask a judge if he was supposed to be wearing a hat.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by saabx View Post
                        he didn't give me a ticket, just told me to get the plate back on. you said no, no, yes but below you said that you said that if he wasn't in uniform, he couldn't have given me a ticket... are you saying that an officer without a uniform or hat or off duty can pull you over but not give a ticket? so then does the officer need to be in uniform or on duty to write a ticket???
                        You're not understanding what I said. I said simply that if he couldn't do those things, he wouldn't have. You misunderstood my statement. I'm not sure about your state but here, they can write you whether they're in uniform or in a bathing suit, on or off duty.

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                        • #13
                          oh ok, thanks that makes sense. i guess then officers here too can do traffic stops and write tickets on or off duty, with or without a uniform. thanks!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by redbird07 View Post
                            Are you really serious about the hat question. Sounds kinda stupid.
                            Believe it or not, here in Jersey, the NJSP SOP states troopers have to wear their hat when they initiate MV stops; they have no breast badge, only the one on their cover.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JLib72 View Post
                              Believe it or not, here in Jersey, the NJSP SOP states troopers have to wear their hat when they initiate MV stops; they have no breast badge, only the one on their cover.
                              That may be true from a policy standpoint but I can bet that it's not law in NJ.

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