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  • #16
    Originally posted by countdown
    I checked for any rules showing only LEOs can respond here. I couldn't find that written anywhere. With all due respect, please show me where it is written. I am not looking to get banned or anything. I just like chatting law and ethics with LEOs.
    This is as the top of the "Ask A Cop" page...

    All Others BANNED on FIRST Offense


    ...Traffic Enforcement is one of the sub-forums
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    • #17
      Originally posted by exComptonCop
      This is as the top of the "Ask A Cop" page...

      All Others BANNED on FIRST Offense


      ...Traffic Enforcement is one of the sub-forums

      Ah...had to do a bit more digging but found it. I have this specific forum set as a bookmark. So I didn't see the subheading for this forum.

      I appologize fellas.
      Last edited by countdown; 04-01-2007, 11:47 PM.

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      • #18
        In my day, NYS had an "impairment of vision" statute that restricted such decals--don't know if it still exists. NYPD used it to restrict the tall tunnel-ram scoops we ran on our cars back then. The officer may be relying on that, too. while it may be a violation, discretion is a privelege officers have & it sounds like this officer is taking things to literally. I've seen Pontiac owners re-arrange their letters to read "anti cop"--who cares? These guys are usually young, stupid and after a few contacts (done properly) it all fades away. Since you'reot part of this "group" I'd just stand by the sidelines and laugh as this geek keeps getting stopped, ticketed and his & his buddies wallets keep getting drained of their hard-earned cash.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by countdown
          It goes back to making the choice to target kids because of a HARMLESS sticker just because you(whoever) doesn't like them(only 1 is acting like a fool towards the law). Now if they are causing real trouble in the town, sure target them(I can think of how the law targets groups like the "Hells Angels"- there's a good reason to target them, drugs and such). But if anyone is in law enforcement and is targeting kids for a harmless sticker, they have too much time on their hands.

          I'm not defending any group. I don't know all the facts. But, the OP said that only 1 member likes to "toy with the law" and that the whole group is paying for some moron. *Going off that*, I would say someone has too much time on their hands if they are targeting a group of otherwise good kids due to a small, out of the way, sticker. Are they pulling over everyone who has a like sticker on their glass? I bet not. If they are writing sticker tickets to everyone, well then the club can cry us a river. Otherwise, that's ethically wrong.

          I certainly don't judge or dislike every officer because I had one harass my little brother and I one night when I was 16(I was a very good kid). I understand that 1 bad apple does not spoil the basket. On the other hand I can appreciate that there are idiots out there and they do(or should) get singled out.

          No need to get all huffy(whoever it was) at me posting and not a original poster in a thread for this specific forum. I will go straight to the "rules" thread(if there is one) and if I am not supposed to respond, not being a LEO, on this open forum I will make sure to follow such rules from here on.

          The laws are the laws. A foolish sticker is against the laws of the land, then its citable and it can be written. Its simple. The officer has the ability to write it or not write it. Its his choice. The ones who break the law are the ones who are acting like fools towards the law, as you put it.
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          • #20
            Why does this not apply to pick up trucks whose rear windsheild is blocked by the use of a closed cab? or a Uhual truck that doesn't even have a rear windsheild? What about certain exotics that have a windsheild the size of someones fist?

            I was under the impression (From my NSYS driving hand book) that a car was only required to have two side mirrors, working headlights, taillights, brake lights, and signals front and back. It never mentions anything about a rear view mirror to see out the back window.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Modified Import
              Why does this not apply to pick up trucks whose rear windsheild is blocked by the use of a closed cab? or a Uhual truck that doesn't even have a rear windsheild? What about certain exotics that have a windsheild the size of someones fist?

              I was under the impression (From my NSYS driving hand book) that a car was only required to have two side mirrors, working headlights, taillights, brake lights, and signals front and back. It never mentions anything about a rear view mirror to see out the back window.
              I'm flying blind as to the specifics of NYS V&T codes, but equipment laws tend to be pretty consistent from state to state. If there is not a clear view out the rear window (which necessitates an interior rear view mirror), then the car or truck must have outside rear view mirrors on each side. However, having outside rear view mirrors does not exempt you from the obstructed window statute. Arguing in court that this is unfair because trucks can have obstructed rear windows is just going to annoy the judge. The legislature wrote the law that way, the governor signed it, and you have to obey it. If it's that big an issue for you, write a letter to your state assemblyman and senator (or whatever they call state legislators in NYS) and see if you can get them interested in changing the law. I don't expect that you'll get very far, but I've been wrong before, too.
              Tim Dees, now writing as a plain old forum member, his superpowers lost to an encounter with gold kryptonite.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by countdown
                Adults should act like adults. Kids acting like idiots or not.

                If the sticker is as small as you say and they are not placed in a area that obstructs view. It sounds like some LEOs in that area are acting much like the kids they're out to harrass. That's weaksauce right there.

                Small towns usually have such issues though. It's as if everyone knows each other and everyone acts like a big dysfunctional family. Sad.
                It's called "The Peter Principle".

                Everyone is out to prove theirs is the biggest, and truth be known, they all are small.

                There's also the old one ... "Contempt of Cop" that causes some of the those who fall under the "Peter Principle" to go into a blind rage.

                "That's right man, we've got mills here that'll blow that heap of your's right off the road."

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                >>>>> A Time for Choosing <<<<<

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