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  • Blackdog F4i
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    Originally posted by Tennsix
    So much for supporting the police... Are yo sure we dont work in the same county?
    Does the Ohio river run through it?

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  • Blackdog F4i
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    Originally posted by rgv_cop
    So much hostility I sense on this topic for a simple lane change.
    I almost get crunched every time I get on my motorcycle because some tool decides to change lanes without signaling or checking mirrors.

    OR my favorite, change lanes, then when your tires are ALREADY in the other lane, then signal.

    It's gotten bad enough that I am going to start "tapping" on mirrors when they do that.

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  • wilmington
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    ^In NC, the NC supreme court has ruled that in order for the charge of fail to use directional, can only be charged if the person not using the signal affects other traffic, however this does NOT include the police officer. there was a big case, someone pulled a car that stopped at a stop sign, made a right turn, no signal, got pulled, gave consent search, and they found dope, and arrested them. It was thrown out, because it said the stop was unlawful, because they didn't affect other traffic, so he should not have been stopped in the first place. Yes its a bunch of....bull..but oh well.

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  • Darkwulfe
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    In Montana a signal is only required if your turn or lane change affects other traffic, this includes the cop behind you. So... in the situations described, like exiting a freeway, you probably are not required to use it until you are entering the next road or highway after exiting the freeway.

    Although I would always recommend using your turn signal for every lane change or turn.

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  • rgv_cop
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    So much hostility I sense on this topic for a simple lane change.

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  • Redders
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    Originally posted by the Chools
    with as many questions as you ask here and admit you don't know much of the vehicle code when you are out driving

    [COLOR=Purple]NorthTex very kindly provided a link to the Texas codes, and I've marked it and am working my way through it.

    How is god's name did you pass the written driver's test when you were 16 in the first place?

    Jesus this is a perfect example of why people are such horrible driver's these days. I had to take evasive the other day because some 16 year old princess just got daddy's new honda out for a spin. She just couldn't understand why I wrote her for FTY, Careless, and No Signal. Well sorrrrrrryyyyyy you almost scalped the side of our brand new car because your an idiot and now your crying at me? Press hard your making 4 copies.

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  • Tennsix
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    Originally posted by Blackdog F4i
    Yep. Local courts will only uphold the citation if you state that other traffic, not including your patrol unit ('cuz we don't count I guess) were effected by the drivers actions.

    It kind of ****es me off because we have a couple like that. If that is the way they want to play it, then they need to change the statute. It's like busted windshields here. I have to show that the windshield was so damaged that it seriously reduces the drivers forward view. I actually have to have crime scene take a picture of the windshield.
    So much for supporting the police... Are yo sure we dont work in the same county?

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  • Blackdog F4i
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    Originally posted by Tennsix
    The suggestion of not be required to signal, if other traffic is not effected, is not actually stated in statute. That concept came from a traffic court case decision several years ago. Some courts accept it and others don’t.
    Yep. Local courts will only uphold the citation if you state that other traffic, not including your patrol unit ('cuz we don't count I guess) were effected by the drivers actions.

    It kind of ****es me off because we have a couple like that. If that is the way they want to play it, then they need to change the statute. It's like busted windshields here. I have to show that the windshield was so damaged that it seriously reduces the drivers forward view. I actually have to have crime scene take a picture of the windshield.

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  • Tennsix
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    Indiana

    Originally posted by Blackdog F4i
    Indiana Vehicle Code states you must signal your intention to turn 200 feet prior.

    Signaling lane changes are optional when said action does not effect any other vehicle.
    IC 9-21-8-25
    Turn signals
    Sec. 25. A signal of intention to turn right or left shall be given continuously during not less than the last two hundred (200) feet traveled by a vehicle before turning or changing lanes. A vehicle traveling in a speed zone of at least fifty (50) miles per hour shall give a signal continuously for not less than the last three hundred (300) feet traveled by the vehicle before turning or changing lanes.

    The suggestion of not be required to signal, if other traffic is not effected, is not actually stated in statute. That concept came from a traffic court case decision several years ago. Some courts accept it and others don’t.

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  • SRT936
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    Originally posted by Blackdog F4i
    Indiana Vehicle Code states you must signal your intention to turn 200 feet prior.

    Signaling lane changes are optional when said action does not effect any other vehicle.
    Its the opposite in Wisconsin. Signalling turns is optional if the turn does not impact any other traffic. Lane changes are mandatory signals.

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  • Northtechsan
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    Originally posted by TGM
    And as for the comment someone made about Texas police "exempt" license plates - I sure hope you were kidding, because the "exempt" only means it is a government vehicle and exempt from annual registration. School districts & fire departments have the exact same license plate.
    Did you not the after that sentence in my post? I thought that made it pretty clear I was being tongue and cheek with that comment.
    Last edited by Northtechsan; 09-27-2006, 11:32 PM.

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  • TGM
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    Texas

    Don't think to much about that one Chools - you are in Texas, and you must signal every turn, lane change, or pretty much any left or right movement of your vehicle every time - Even if you are the only one on the road for miles.

    And as for the comment someone made about Texas police "exempt" license plates - I sure hope you were kidding, because the "exempt" only means it is a government vehicle and exempt from annual registration. School districts & fire departments have the exact same license plate.

    And as for being exempt from the traffic laws in a Texas police car, the only traffic law we are always exempt from is speeding. You are only exempt from all other traffic laws when on an emergency response or while chasing or catching up to a suspected violator.
    Last edited by TGM; 09-10-2006, 04:56 PM.

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  • the Chools
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    with as many questions as you ask here and admit you don't know much of the vehicle code when you are out driving

    NorthTex very kindly provided a link to the Texas codes, and I've marked it and am working my way through it.








    Signaling lane changes are optional when said action does not effect any other vehicle.

    Now, THAT's interesting. It makes sense, too, esp. on deserted residential streets and such. But it gets into a grey area... Just WHEN is another driver effected and when is he not? How far away does he have to be? Ahead or behind of the non-signaler?


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  • Northtechsan
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    Originally posted by the Chools
    That's a pet peeve of mine. How many times have I come too close to someone's rear, because he slowed without signaling his upcoming turn?

    Well if you were to hit that driver because they did not signal you would still be at fault in the accident. Law also requires you to maintain an assured safe distance, other wise you are following too closely. Regardless of what the driver does in front of you it is your requirement not to hit them (one exception- they are backing up).

    As for you waving your finger and showing your sign, great way to fuel a road rage incident. My suggestion is to leave traffic enforcement to the police and do your best to follow the rules of the road, and avoid the drivers who dont, its not a civilians job to correct bad driving its ours.

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  • Fuzz
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    Originally posted by the Chools
    That's a pet peeve of mine. How many times have I come too close to someone's rear, because he slowed without signaling his upcoming turn? If someone wants to merge, and has a signal on, I generally let him in. But if he is not signaling, No Way, Jose.

    And if he's on his CELL PHONE, I NEVER let him in. Instead, I do the "no-no" with my finger, and hold up the sign I carry (it's also painted on the back of my van): "Hang up and DRIVE!"


    I apologize in advance but I must rant.

    You are one of the major reasons why there are accidents and road rage on our streets. You are not the police...do not try to be. If someone is trying to merge without a signal....heres an idea....if you can tell hes trying to merge then let them. Maybe his turn signals are broken, maybe he has a burned out bulb, maybe he just didn't turn it on. Regardless..... just becuase they are being a rude driver you dont need to make the situation worse. And if you come too close to someone's rear end when they are going to make a turn it means you werent paying attention and are going too fast or following too close because even without a turn signal they have brake lights or they took their foot off the gas and you should be slowing down.

    As far as the cell phone, in California it is not illegal to drive on the phone (it will be soon, but thats another story)...is it illegal where you are at? If it is....once again you are not the police..do not try to be as you are just going to cause yourself problems. If it's not illegal in your area then you have no right to judge another persons driving habit as YOU ARE TAKING YOUR HANDS OFF THE STEERING WHEEL AND YOUR ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE ROAD TO HOLD UP YOUR STUPID SIGN. Im glad to know your such a courteous driver and make your own rules as to when you will let someone merge and when you will not. Maybe you should put your rules on the back of your van so everyone else knows when they can and can't merge....geez.

    And one more thing.... with as many questions as you ask here and admit you don't know much of the vehicle code when you are out driving it is pretty funny that you expect everyone else to know it and obey it. Maybe they are on an internet forum somewhere asking questions similar to yours such as " Do I have to use a turn signal if I'm only changing lanes and still going straight?"

    Yes everybody should use signals and be courteous drivers, but don't put yourself into the problem.

    Whew...now I feel better.....

    Rant off.
    Last edited by Fuzz; 09-03-2006, 04:36 PM.

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