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  • gotthblues
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    [QUOTE=Centurion44]Because we practice (or should practice) drawing our weapon so much that it should be second nature. And placing your hand on your weapon when they should be in a more "ready" position to defend against strikes is more encouraged. There was almost no time difference for me from having my hand on a weapon and getting a round off than having my hands in a ready position in front of me and getting a round off. This excercise we did was more to encourage weapon retention. If it makes an officer feel better to have his hand on his weaponi, I don't have any issues with that- I still catch myself doing it on occasion subconsciousely.

    i agree, we used to pratice holding our clip boards, then the instructor would edge the targets, it was time to ditch the clip board and put "anti felon repelant" down range

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  • Centurion44
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    Originally posted by Conner
    How is it not helpful if the situation escalates into reason to use the weapon?
    Because we practice (or should practice) drawing our weapon so much that it should be second nature. And placing your hand on your weapon when they should be in a more "ready" position to defend against strikes is more encouraged. There was almost no time difference for me from having my hand on a weapon and getting a round off than having my hands in a ready position in front of me and getting a round off. This excercise we did was more to encourage weapon retention. If it makes an officer feel better to have his hand on his weaponi, I don't have any issues with that- I still catch myself doing it on occasion subconsciousely.


    Originally posted by Da Po-po
    I agree with the idea that having your hand on your handgun is a good idea when a contact seems hanky. If anything, it gives me the opportunity to get proper grip placement so if I do need to draw in a hurry, I'm in better position to engage the threat. I've never heard of any agency making the tactic a requirement though.
    If you practice like you should, grip placement should be just as automatic as drawing your weapon. It should all be one motion.

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  • Da Po-po
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    I agree with the idea that having your hand on your handgun is a good idea when a contact seems hanky. If anything, it gives me the opportunity to get proper grip placement so if I do need to draw in a hurry, I'm in better position to engage the threat. I've never heard of any agency making the tactic a requirement though.

    This topic reminds me of a stop I made once where I pressed on the trunk lid of the car (like I always do). The lady driving was furious that I touched her vehicle until I explained how some officers have been attacked by folks hiding in the trunk or how slain officers' prints were located on the vehicle after the fact. She sure changed her tune in a hurry.

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  • CarCop
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    Originally posted by Conner
    How is it not helpful if the situation escalates into reason to use the weapon?

    Conner, different schools of thought on that one. I believe what 44's statement refers to is that, even with your hand on the weapon your thought process still goes through the it's phases, all that takes about the same amount of time. If you shave off anything it may only be a hundredth of a second .... I know every second counts.

    Personally, It depends on what I see as I approach. I can't say that I never or always have my hand on the weapon, hell there are time I have it in hand. Lots depends on time of day, how many people in car, movement, visability.... lots.

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  • Code3kd
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    I usually get them out of the car and on to the sidewalk.
    If I do approach then my hand is on the gun.

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  • concon02
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    Originally posted by Centurion44
    Not a requirement, but something many officers do. While in Officer Survival they showed how little difference keeping your hand on your weapon really makes- even having it out of the holster and down by your side doesn't make that much difference, so I stopped doing that a while ago.
    How is it not helpful if the situation escalates into reason to use the weapon?

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  • Centurion44
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    Not a requirement, but something many officers do. While in Officer Survival they showed how little difference keeping your hand on your weapon really makes- even having it out of the holster and down by your side doesn't make that much difference, so I stopped doing that a while ago.

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  • Josh
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    Approaching a suspect (during a traffic stop)

    When an officer approaches a suspect that he or she has just pulled over is it standard procedure to place a hand on one's gun? I heard that in some places it has recently become a requirement due to the impredictability of most people. Thanks for your help.

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