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  • CCCSD
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    Almost three year old thread...

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  • redbird07
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    My guess is they stopped traffic for an unrelated, legitimate reason (prob an accident), and ticketed the cyclists who drove between lanes to get to the front in order to get a head start out of the traffic mess once the incident cleared up.

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  • CCCSD
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    Some folks think this forum is entrapment...

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  • SmallCityCop
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    Same folks who think running radar is entrapment....

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  • Roller2200
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    NO its not entrapment

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  • tanksoldier
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    For it to be entrapment the cops would have had to induce the motorcyclists to break the law... forced or convinced them to lane split, speed or whatever.

    How would YOU see that happening?

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  • LPSS
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    Originally posted by jtdbsr View Post
    my question is: is it entrapment or not?

    A quick google search reveals that "entrapment is a practice whereby a law enforcement agent induces a person to commit a criminal offense that the person would have otherwise been unlikely to commit"
    As you found out, entrapment is a specific legal term which refers to someone who was induced to commit a crime that he or she would not have otherwise been likely to commit. For example, it would be entrapment if the police were to promise to give a broke drug addict a million dollars if he will take some heroin which they give him, then they arrest him for doing just that.

    This term happens to confuse a lot of people because it has the word "trap" in it. Being caught in a police "trap" (like a "speed trap" or some other police activity designed to "catch" people breaking the law) does not mean you were "entrapped." It's legal to catch law breakers in a trap. It's not legal to entrap them. They are entirely different concepts.

    To comment on the video, all it shows is a couple of motorcyclists stopped on the shoulder and officers waving bikes over to the shoulder in heavy stopped traffic. I find it hard to believe that the NYPD just decided to set up a road block one day and see if any random motorcyclists would choose to lane split. More than likely they were targeting specific bikers that were weaving in and out of traffic and were generating complaints/911 calls or were observed by officers.

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  • sanitizer
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    Originally posted by jtdbsr View Post
    Entrapment or not?
    not

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  • jtdbsr
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    I read this site often without posting simply because I'm not qualified to comment on most subjects discussed. My intent was to see if I interpreted the definition of entrapment correctly or not. Got my answer and thank you!

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  • CCCSD
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    One post proll...

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  • PhilipCal
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    Do YOU wish to believe there was entrapment? If so, knock yourself out. No one here is going to care one way or the other.

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  • Shush
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    No, it's not entrapment.


    The same people that think this is entrapment also think its entrapment if I catch you driving drunk at a compliance checkpoint.

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  • just joe
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    In this case "entrapment" means "I got caught."

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  • bpd303
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    I'll go with Iowa on this.

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  • Iowa #1603
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    Originally posted by jtdbsr View Post
    A quick google search reveals that "entrapment is a practice whereby a law enforcement agent induces a person to commit a criminal offense that the person would have otherwise been unlikely to commit" /
    We are quite aware of what constitutes entrapment.

    Personally I would disregard anything in that article as being hogwash

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