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    I was driving a Lexus IS350 and I was following the normal speed limit in Nassau County. Few days after Hurricane Sandy, I was driving to school and was pulled over. I had my belt on, and was nothing breaking any traffic violations. The NYS trooper asked me for my license and registration, which i handed to him. Since my car is black and I have tinted windows as well as black rims, the NYS trooper assumed I was a "speedster". However, I have a clean record, no points and a red light ticket from 4 years back. He cited me (5) tickets.

    (1) for no front license plate. (which i had on, but it was slanted)
    (1) for dirty license (rear)
    (1) for balding tires (There were clearly visible threads left on my tires!)
    (1) for tinted safety glass (I think the tiny rear window glasses)
    (1) for tinted rear windshield


    All resulting in about $900 is fees and surcharges!


    First of all i would just like your opinion on how to handle this. I have pleaded NOT GUILTY and my court date is March 5th 2013. I am becoming NYPD police officer and I have given my exam already. During my traffic stop, I pointed out that I am trying to become a police officer and I am in good standing with my local police department. Possibly this might have triggered the NYS trooper to act so roughly. My court is 16 Cooper St. in Nassau County. This is the first time dealing with a prosecutor and judge.
    I find it pointless to get a lawyer and pay $1,000 dollar is fees! I would like to ask current officer what is it I would have to possibly get these tickets reduced. How do I talk to the prosecutor and ask for a "lesser plea". Please dont bash me, I am a working college student.

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    Just a suggestion to you: Post this in the NY section of the forum. You can get answers that are more relevant to your particular situation and jurisdiction.


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    • #3
      Originally posted by mynameismoe View Post
      I was driving a Lexus IS350 and I was following the normal speed limit in Nassau County. Few days after Hurricane Sandy, I was driving to school and was pulled over. I had my belt on, and was nothing breaking any traffic violations. The NYS trooper asked me for my license and registration, which i handed to him. Since my car is black and I have tinted windows as well as black rims, the NYS trooper assumed I was a "speedster". However, I have a clean record, no points and a red light ticket from 4 years back. He cited me (5) tickets.

      (1) for no front license plate. (which i had on, but it was slanted)
      (1) for dirty license (rear)
      (1) for balding tires (There were clearly visible threads left on my tires!)
      (1) for tinted safety glass (I think the tiny rear window glasses)
      (1) for tinted rear windshield


      All resulting in about $900 is fees and surcharges!


      First of all i would just like your opinion on how to handle this. I have pleaded NOT GUILTY and my court date is March 5th 2013. I am becoming NYPD police officer and I have given my exam already. During my traffic stop, I pointed out that I am trying to become a police officer and I am in good standing with my local police department. Possibly this might have triggered the NYS trooper to act so roughly. My court is 16 Cooper St. in Nassau County. This is the first time dealing with a prosecutor and judge.
      I find it pointless to get a lawyer and pay $1,000 dollar is fees! I would like to ask current officer what is it I would have to possibly get these tickets reduced. How do I talk to the prosecutor and ask for a "lesser plea". Please dont bash me, I am a working college student.
      Yea..................you did what you should. In other words you plead Not Guilty and have a court date.

      good luck
      Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

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      • #4
        Pay 3k for a lawyer and suck it up. We are not here for you to get out of a friggin ticket troll.
        Stupid has no color or race, everyone can participate.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mynameismoe View Post
          I was driving a Lexus IS350 and I was following the normal speed limit in Nassau County. Few days after Hurricane Sandy, I was driving to school and was pulled over. I had my belt on, and was nothing breaking any traffic violations. The NYS trooper asked me for my license and registration, which i handed to him. Since my car is black and I have tinted windows as well as black rims, the NYS trooper assumed I was a "speedster". However, I have a clean record, no points and a red light ticket from 4 years back. He cited me (5) tickets.

          (1) for no front license plate. (which i had on, but it was slanted)
          (1) for dirty license (rear)
          (1) for balding tires (There were clearly visible threads left on my tires!)
          (1) for tinted safety glass (I think the tiny rear window glasses)
          (1) for tinted rear windshield


          All resulting in about $900 is fees and surcharges!


          First of all i would just like your opinion on how to handle this. I have pleaded NOT GUILTY and my court date is March 5th 2013. I am becoming NYPD police officer and I have given my exam already. During my traffic stop, I pointed out that I am trying to become a police officer and I am in good standing with my local police department. Possibly this might have triggered the NYS trooper to act so roughly. My court is 16 Cooper St. in Nassau County. This is the first time dealing with a prosecutor and judge.
          I find it pointless to get a lawyer and pay $1,000 dollar is fees! I would like to ask current officer what is it I would have to possibly get these tickets reduced. How do I talk to the prosecutor and ask for a "lesser plea". Please dont bash me, I am a working college student.
          1) Is the hearing in criminal court or a DMV TVB?

          2) Post the VTL codes and subsection as they appear on your summonses. I'm curious as to the exact charges, plus $900 seems high even for the aggregate.

          3) These are all equipment viols, so luckily no points. However, regardless of outcome, you will need to report all of them to your NYPD investigator when you get assigned one (if you haven't already) and will have to explain yourself.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by VA Dutch View Post

            Just a suggestion to you: Post this in the NY section of the forum. You can get answers that are more relevant to your particular situation and jurisdiction.


            GOOD LUCK!!
            Thank you sir! Sorry, Im new to the site. I will remember for future references.


            Originally posted by IAM Rand View Post
            Pay 3k for a lawyer and suck it up. We are not here for you to get out of a friggin ticket troll.
            I dont have $3,000 for minor traffic infractions. If your not here for me to get out of a "friggen ticket troll" what are you here for? Help and support, I presume?



            Originally posted by DigitalFrenchie View Post
            1) Is the hearing in criminal court or a DMV TVB?

            2) Post the VTL codes and subsection as they appear on your summonses. I'm curious as to the exact charges, plus $900 seems high even for the aggregate.

            3) These are all equipment viols, so luckily no points. However, regardless of outcome, you will need to report all of them to your NYPD investigator when you get assigned one (if you haven't already) and will have to explain yourself.

            _DF
            Fines Surcharge Total
            402-1 NO PLATE/OBSTRUCTED/DIRTY $130 80 $210
            402-1 NO PLATE/OBSTRUCTED/DIRTY $130 80 $210
            375-35 BALD TIRE $80 50 $130
            375-12A2 TINTED SIDE WINDOWS $80 50 $130
            375-12A4 EQUIP VIOLATION-SAFETY $80 $50 $130
            --------
            (Without penalty) $810


            The hearing is in NASSAU COUNTY TRAFFIC AND PARKING VIOLATION AGENCY. They do do plea bargains, but I have never been in this situation, so I do not know how or who to ask for a lesser plea.

            Yes, I agree that there are no points added, and I have bought this incident to my commanding officer and all he did was laught and told me to be careful.

            I would also like to add that all these infractions have been fixed. I got the tints taken off, aswell as fixed the plates and got four new tires
            Last edited by mynameismoe; 02-25-2013, 09:47 PM.

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            • #7
              I would have all of those violations fixed before your court date as well.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by mynameismoe View Post
                I dont have $3,000 for minor traffic infractions. If your not here for me to get out of a "friggen ticket troll" what are you here for? Help and support, I presume?
                You do not get to dictate how the questions are answered.

                It is the policy of peace officers on this forum NOT to assist people with strategies on how to get out of traffic citations
                Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                • #9
                  Get all the violations fixed and show up for court and say "I have all my violations fixed. I'm a student and have no money. I didn't know any better. Please help me." I think that's your best bet and really your only option. I imagine the prosecutor might be willing to dismiss 2 or 3 of the tickets if you plead guilty and pay the rest. So just show up on your court date and ask what your options are.

                  Are you sure you didn't argue with the Trooper? That's an awful lot of equipment violations. Too many to even fit on one of my tickets. Someone has got to be doing something pretty egregious to cause me to bust out another ticket. I think the last time that happened it was way more serious stuff like No DL, No Insurance, No Child Safety Seat, Speeding, and No License Plate.
                  "No one can make you feel like a turd without your permission." - Eleanor Roosevelt.

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                  • #10
                    No prior tickets and being one out of 25,000 applicants don't mean ****.
                    Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. - Ronald Reagan

                    I don't think It'll happen in the US because we don't trust our government. We are a country of skeptics, raised by skeptics, founded by skeptics. - Amaroq

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mynameismoe View Post

                      (1) for no front license plate. (which i had on, but it was slanted)
                      (1) for dirty license (rear)
                      (1) for balding tires (There were clearly visible threads left on my tires!)
                      (1) for tinted safety glass (I think the tiny rear window glasses)
                      (1) for tinted rear windshield


                      I have pleaded NOT GUILTY
                      Forgive me but I am confused here. You have pled not guilty but based on your later posts indicating things had been corrected -

                      1. Wasn't the front plate slanted and obstructed?

                      2. Wasn't the back plate dirty and obstructed?

                      3. Was the tread depth of the tire greater than the required amount?

                      4. Were or were not the windows tinted?

                      I guess my problem is, why are you pleading not guilty when based on the content of your posts, it appears you are guilty? It strikes me that we're not dealing with a case of you being in the right. Instead, it seems that you simply don't want to be wrong, irrespective of the facts.

                      One of the minimum requirements to be a police officer is the ability to accurately interpret facts and to accept reality. You appear to be lacking in those skills. Based on what you are doing here, I'm beginning to suspect you may have difficulty getting past the psych.

                      Come back and retest in about five years.
                      Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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                      • #12
                        Maybe things are different in that part of the country, but around here even the troopers would not drop that many equipment cites on a person unless they seriously failed the tried and true "***hole test". I was not there, but I would imagine the roadside exchange of words could have gone better.

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                        • #13
                          I love how this guy has an excuse for everything. Honesty and integrity are what makes a LEO and you sir seem to be lacking these traits.
                          Den sterkeste mann i verden er han som star mest alene.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by XD4ME View Post
                            Maybe things are different in that part of the country, but around here even the troopers would not drop that many equipment cites on a person unless they seriously failed the tried and true "***hole test". I was not there, but I would imagine the roadside exchange of words could have gone better.
                            My guess is the operative phrases indicated below were probably the driving factor

                            Originally posted by mynameismoe View Post
                            I was driving a Lexus IS350 and I was following the normal speed limit in Nassau County. Few days after Hurricane Sandy, I was driving to school and was pulled over. I had my belt on, and was nothing breaking any traffic violations. The NYS trooper asked me for my license and registration, which i handed to him. Since my car is black and I have tinted windows as well as black rims, the NYS trooper assumed I was a "speedster".................................................. ................. During my traffic stop, I pointed out that I am trying to become a police officer and I am in good standing with my local police department. Possibly this might have triggered the NYS trooper to act so roughly
                            Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                            My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                            • #15
                              Since you are wanting to be a cop, here is what will happen. I didn't see where you mentioned if you were in a hiring process or not. This traffic stop will be discovered during your background and your investigator will contact the trooper who stopped you. If you had an attitude, good luck moving on in a process. As others have stated, a trooper writing that much paper on you raises red flags which will make your BI dig deeper.

                              My biggest issue is with you saying that you weren't breaking any traffic laws. Obviously you were, otherwise the trooper would not have hung paper on you. Part of being a cop is accepting responsibility for your own actions. It has been my experience that if you cannot accept this responsibility you will either not get hired or your career will be very short. If your vehicle had been maintained according to the traffic code then you would not have been cited.

                              Good luck.

                              Covman
                              Last edited by covman454; 02-26-2013, 01:00 AM.

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