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    Imagine two cars are on the same 3-lane freeway, one in the far left lane and the other in the far right lane. They both change lanes to the middle lane at the same time and collide. Tickets go to...?

    1) Both, because niether has right of way, and they both failed to complete the lane change safely.

    2) The leftmost car only, as he failed to give way to the right.

    3) The rightmost car only, because of some law that I don't know about.

    4) Neither. Let the insurance sort it out. They'll both probably lie and say they were fully in the lane before the other guy hit them.

  • #2
    Uh Uh........I can't imagine it. You want to post what really happened? Or is this all pretend?
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    • #3
      I vote both of them. I have been in that position and if you are paying attention it won't happen.

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      • #4
        I've worked this plenty of times. Neither. That's why they have insurance.....I imagine

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RoadKingTrooper View Post
          Uh Uh........I can't imagine it. You want to post what really happened? Or is this all pretend?
          What really happened is I tried to change lanes from the rightmost lane to the center lane and realized that the car in the leftmost lane was changing into the center lane also. I returned to my lane. I was just wondering if there was any stated ROW in the situation.

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          • #6
            Neither has the obligation to yield to the other individually; but, both have the obligation to be aware of the other collectively. There would be no alarming evidence to show which of the two vehicles occupied the center lane legally so the option goes to the insurance companies to figure it out. If a collision happened the primary collision factor would show both parties sharing the same violation - unsafe movement.
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            • #7
              Just drive defensively and LOOK prior to changing lanes and you won't have to worry about this circumstance.
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              • #8
                If the evidence and witnesses indicate that both cars changed lanes at the same time, I would not write a ticket at all. That is why you carry insurance.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by grumpyirishman View Post
                  Just drive defensively and LOOK prior to changing lanes and you won't have to worry about this circumstance.
                  I did drive defensively... I avoided the accident. I changed lanes after signalling for about 4 seconds, and it took me 3 or 4 seconds to complete the slow lane change. After I had all 4 wheels inside the lane (but was not yet in the center) the car to my left made an unsignalled panic lane change to avoid slower traffic ahead of him. I saw his front wheel cross the line and I went halfway back to my prior lane as he sped away, before completing my lane change.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JohnG View Post
                    After I had all 4 wheels inside the lane (but was not yet in the center) the car to my left made an unsignalled panic lane change to avoid slower traffic ahead of him. I saw his front wheel cross the line and I went halfway back to my prior lane as he sped away, before completing my lane change.

                    You must have been on I-66 or I-95 in Virginia. This offense is very common, and it is nothing short of a miracle that there are not many more crashes than we already have.


                    I cannot tell you how many "near misses" I have had because of idiots like that. They just zip over - no signal or warning - and they'll blow the horn at you because you are not psychic for knowing what their next move will be.


                    This is one reason why directional signals are so important! Get everyone to signal their intentions and drive in the proper lane -- and our commute would be safer and less stressful.

                    The comments above reflect my personal opinion as a private citizen, ordinary motorist and all-around good guy.

                    The aforementioned advice should not be construed to represent any type of professional opinion, legal counsel or other type of instruction with regard to traffic laws, judicial proceedings or official agency policy.

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                    • #11
                      You just described the crash we were in on the Eisenhower Expwy in Chicago years ago. No tickets issued- the insurance companies duked it out.
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                      • #12
                        That, my friend, is one of 424,482 reasons why passing on the right should be prohibited in the state of Ohio. At the same time your screwed as the morons in the hammer lane can't figure out to get the hell out of the way!

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                        • #13
                          In Texas the following would determine ROW.


                          § 545.061.Â* DRIVING ON MULTIPLE-LANE ROADWAY.Â*
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                          On a roadway divided into three or more lanes and providing for one-way movement of traffic, an operator entering a lane of traffic from a lane to the right shall yield the right-of-way to a vehicle entering the same lane of traffic from a lane to the left.

                          Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Semper Fidelis View Post
                            In Texas the following would determine ROW.


                            § 545.061.�* DRIVING ON MULTIPLE-LANE ROADWAY.�*
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                            On a roadway divided into three or more lanes and providing for one-way movement of traffic, an operator entering a lane of traffic from a lane to the right shall yield the right-of-way to a vehicle entering the same lane of traffic from a lane to the left.

                            Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.�*�*�*�*�*�*�*�*�*�*�*ï ¿½*�*�*�*�*�*�*�*
                            So if the case I described (6 posts above) happened in TX, then I'd be blamed if that had resulted in a collision? Unless I could prove I was fully in the lane?

                            At what point do I have possession of the lane? All 4 wheels inside the white lines? When I reach the center of the lane?

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                            • #15
                              Well you didn't say what car you were. But the answer would be #3. You are to have control of the lane when you move into it. However you said theY both move in at the same time. I work plenty of accidents like this and each time everyone claims they were in the lane first. Unless an officer or independt witness says otherwise more often then not both parties get cited. Afterall if i'm working an accident everyone who can is getting a ticket.
                              Last edited by Semper Fidelis; 07-12-2009, 12:17 PM. Reason: Fixed

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