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    About a week into the new month, you and a couple of other officers set up a checkpoint at at a highway on-ramp. You're looking for expired registration and inspection stickers.

    A motorist comes upon the checkpoint displaying a registration sticker that expired at the end of the previous month. You direct the motorist aside for further inspection.

    Upon your request for license, registration, and poof of insurance, the motorist (who is the registered owner of the vehicle) produces what appear to be a valid license and insurance card, and the expired registration. The motorist also hands you a receipt from the Department of Motor Vehicles website, dated one week prior to the registration expiration date, for renewal of the registration. The receipt displays the R/O's name, the license plate number of the vehicle, and the VIN. The motorist explains to you that he renewed the registration online, but has not yet received the new registration for the vehicle.

    When you run the motorist, he comes back as valid, with no wants, warrants, or holds. The registration on the vehicle comes back as valid. The insurance is in full effect.

    The motorist shows no indication of being under the influence of any substance. There are no odors coming from the vehicle. There is nothing in plain sight inside the vehicle that would give you reason to further investigate.

    During the entire encounter, the motorist has been courteous, respectful, and forthcoming with the information you have requested.

    Do you kick the motorist loose? State law also allows you to cite him for failing to display the proper registration. Do you cite him?

  • #2
    Originally posted by hxd View Post
    About a week into the new month, you and a couple of other officers set up a checkpoint at at a highway on-ramp. You're looking for expired registration and inspection stickers.

    A motorist comes upon the checkpoint displaying a registration sticker that expired at the end of the previous month. You direct the motorist aside for further inspection.

    Upon your request for license, registration, and poof of insurance, the motorist (who is the registered owner of the vehicle) produces what appear to be a valid license and insurance card, and the expired registration. The motorist also hands you a receipt from the Department of Motor Vehicles website, dated one week prior to the registration expiration date, for renewal of the registration. The receipt displays the R/O's name, the license plate number of the vehicle, and the VIN. The motorist explains to you that he renewed the registration online, but has not yet received the new registration for the vehicle.

    When you run the motorist, he comes back as valid, with no wants, warrants, or holds. The registration on the vehicle comes back as valid. The insurance is in full effect.

    The motorist shows no indication of being under the influence of any substance. There are no odors coming from the vehicle. There is nothing in plain sight inside the vehicle that would give you reason to further investigate.

    During the entire encounter, the motorist has been courteous, respectful, and forthcoming with the information you have requested.

    Do you kick the motorist loose? State law also allows you to cite him for failing to display the proper registration. Do you cite him?
    With the attitude presented - Warning, given that the registration shows valid after being ran.
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    • #3
      Not only cut them loose but apologize for the inconvienence. States with online renewal should be diligent enough to get the updated stickers to the vehicle owner in a timely fashion, it's not the owners fault. Had the state completed the online transaction, the owner would have been displaying current registration and would not have been pulled out for further inspection.
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      • #4
        I don't know how it is now, but before I retired, our state's DMV was so behind in processing mail in registration renewals that it was department SOP to give a six month grace period on an expired reg before we cited.
        Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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        • #5
          You also said it was the first week of the month, so let me add something to it. Here, all registrations expire on the last day of the month, but there is a grace period of five working days into the next month before it becomes a violation.
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          Let your watchword be duty, and know no other talisman of success than labor. Let honor be your guiding star in your dealing with your superiors, with your fellows, with all. Be as true to a trust reposed as the needle to the pole. Stand by the right even to the sacrifice of life itself, and learn that death is preferable to dishonor. ~ Gov. Richard Coke, October 4, 1876

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          • #6
            That's a good example of spirit of the law versus letter of the law. No citation, considering the information given.
            Well first, life dealt you a bad hand, then you decided to double down.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by -918- View Post
              Not only cut them loose but apologize for the inconvienence. States with online renewal should be diligent enough to get the updated stickers to the vehicle owner in a timely fashion, it's not the owners fault. Had the state completed the online transaction, the owner would have been displaying current registration and would not have been pulled out for further inspection.

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              • #8
                In PA the printed receipt from the DMV is a valid renewal good for 15 days. PENNDot is very good about getting the sticker and new registration card to the customer within 10 days. We are taught about the security features of online registration. I wouldn't even pull the motorist out for furter inspection.
                When Society makes war on its police, it better be prepared to make friends of its criminals.

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                • #9
                  I would never cite someone who had proof that the vehicle was registered, but the DMV hadnt mailed out stickers/tabs. Depending on the time of year the DMV can be really backed up. One of the main reasons I handle all of my DMV transactions through the Auto Club...... sticker and reg card in hand within 15 minutes and no worries.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by hxd View Post
                    About a week into the new month, you and a couple of other officers set up a checkpoint at at a highway on-ramp. You're looking for expired registration and inspection stickers.

                    A motorist comes upon the checkpoint displaying a registration sticker that expired at the end of the previous month. You direct the motorist aside for further inspection.

                    Upon your request for license, registration, and poof of insurance, the motorist (who is the registered owner of the vehicle) produces what appear to be a valid license and insurance card, and the expired registration. The motorist also hands you a receipt from the Department of Motor Vehicles website, dated one week prior to the registration expiration date, for renewal of the registration. The receipt displays the R/O's name, the license plate number of the vehicle, and the VIN. The motorist explains to you that he renewed the registration online, but has not yet received the new registration for the vehicle.

                    When you run the motorist, he comes back as valid, with no wants, warrants, or holds. The registration on the vehicle comes back as valid. The insurance is in full effect.

                    The motorist shows no indication of being under the influence of any substance. There are no odors coming from the vehicle. There is nothing in plain sight inside the vehicle that would give you reason to further investigate.

                    During the entire encounter, the motorist has been courteous, respectful, and forthcoming with the information you have requested.

                    Do you kick the motorist loose? State law also allows you to cite him for failing to display the proper registration. Do you cite him?
                    No I don't I send Him on his way.....

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