Can I still get hired?

[getthecrit]

Good Morning,

I have recently talked to a recruiter and begun the process of becoming a state trooper. My only issue lies with I was terminated from a regional jail recently (not DoC) because an inmate got maliciously assaulted. He was a sex offender, and it slipped up in a conversation I was having with another inmate. I figured nothing of it, cause usually when this happens the other inmates will “put him on the door” and force him to move to the sex offender pod. These inmates did not do that, they beat him. The video footage of me talking to the inmate makes it seem as though I told them to beat the guy up, because there was no audio, and they fired me for it. I don’t care if they think that’s what I did, I know what truly happened. I don’t have a confidentiality issue, I had a secret clearance in the marine corps, not that it matters. I’m more or so looking for an experienced state trooper to tell me what you would do if you came across me as a candidate. My recruiter told me to just disclose everything to the BI when I get to that point.

[tanksoldier]

My question is: if your jail had a sex offender pod, we called it the “special population pod”, why wasn’t the sex offender in it?

in the jail where I started, the pod boss would demand to see the booking papers of every inmate who came into the pod. If an inmate refused or didn’t have them, it was assumed they were a child molester and bad things would happen.

Anybody in on any kind of sex charges, or who had to register as a sex offender due to past behavior, or who admitted any kind of alternative lifestyle stuff (drag queens, trans, gay, etc), went in the special pod right off.

So I guess I’m asking, if the jail miss-classified an inmate, how is that your fault?

If they had video of you talking to the inmate, and that’s all they had, how did they decide you were the one who slipped up?

Your story doesn’t really make sense to anyone who knows how jails work.

If you really did slip up, that’s actually no big deal. It happens.

If you’re lying about why you were blamed, that will be the problem.

The BI will call and ask. If your story doesn’t match the hail’s story you won’t get hired AND word WILL get around to anyone else you apply with. BIs call each other and talk.

[getthecrit]

Just because you’ve worked in a jail does not mean you understand policies and procedures of all jails. My “story” makes perfect sense. Every inmate is legally allowed to live in general population, based on their charges. Sex offenders and Child molesters are still afforded the opportunity to live in general population at this jail, but they do have to sign a paper stating they understand the risks with the charges they have. The reason they’re allowed to live in general population is because in the sex offender pod, they are not afforded the opportunity to purchase commissary. So if they want to sign a paper saying they feel safe and can defend themselves, just so they can buy some honey buns, it’s no longer on the authorities hands.

[getthecrit]

They also know it came from me because after the inmate was done talking to me, I left the pod to make my round in another pod. After I left, he gathered everyone up and went into his cell (on a door break, which happens at the top of every hour in Gen pop) and they beat him. He was new to the pod. I told the jail when they investigated me that I did tell the other inmate his charges, because it was my fault. They asked me “did you ask them to beat that inmate?” And I told them “absolutely not.” But to save themself from a lawsuit (this is the majors own words) “well I think it’s cut and dry. You’re fired. The guy is most likely gonna sue, and when they come to ask us about it, I’m going to let them know that we fired you and washed our hands of it.”

[Aidokea]

Good Morning,

I have recently talked to a recruiter and begun the process of becoming a state trooper. My only issue lies with I was terminated from a regional jail recently (not DoC) because an inmate got maliciously assaulted. He was a sex offender, and it slipped up in a conversation I was having with another inmate. I figured nothing of it, cause usually when this happens the other inmates will “put him on the door” and force him to move to the sex offender pod. These inmates did not do that, they beat him. The video footage of me talking to the inmate makes it seem as though I told them to beat the guy up, because there was no audio, and they fired me for it. I don’t care if they think that’s what I did, I know what truly happened. I don’t have a confidentiality issue, I had a secret clearance in the marine corps, not that it matters. I’m more or so looking for an experienced state trooper to tell me what you would do if you came across me as a candidate. My recruiter told me to just disclose everything to the BI when I get to that point.

Saved.

Incredible...

[Aidokea]

They probably saved your life by firing you on the spot.

You're not cut out for this line of work.

[getthecrit]

They probably saved your life by firing you on the spot.

You're not cut out for this line of work.

Parasites like you is why cops get a bad name lol seems like you’re not cut out for the job yourself. Carry on.

[NolaT]

Why were you chatting with inmates at all?!

[HI629]

OP thought he was cute and wanted to hook up once the inmate got released.

[Aidokea]

Lol.......

[Dinosaur32]

getthecrit…You are way out of line. If you cannot accept criticism from a long time poster and experienced LEO, you are definitely not cut out for this profession.

[getthecrit]

Why were you chatting with inmates at all?!

Your higher ups and supervisors encourage you to build rapport with inmates to mitigate the chances of you or other officers assaulted. No use in being a stone cold dick head and end up getting stabbed. But that doesn’t mean be their best friends and be at their every beck and call either. But I can honestly say there were multiple inmates that would put someone out of a pod for disrespecting me and several other specific officers, because we treated them like human beings. Most of them are in there for drug charges, nothing violent in any way. The inmate I was speaking with specifically was also the one that basically controlled the whole pod. Every inmate in there wouldn’t dare question him. So if I ever needed everyone to lock down because of an emergency, or belligerence, he would make sure it happened.

[CCCSD]

Good Morning,

I have recently talked to a recruiter and begun the process of becoming a state trooper. My only issue lies with I was terminated from a regional jail recently (not DoC) because an inmate got maliciously assaulted. He was a sex offender, and it slipped up in a conversation I was having with another inmate. I figured nothing of it, cause usually when this happens the other inmates will “put him on the door” and force him to move to the sex offender pod. These inmates did not do that, they beat him. The video footage of me talking to the inmate makes it seem as though I told them to beat the guy up, because there was no audio, and they fired me for it. I don’t care if they think that’s what I did, I know what truly happened. I don’t have a confidentiality issue, I had a secret clearance in the marine corps, not that it matters. I’m more or so looking for an experienced state trooper to tell me what you would do if you came across me as a candidate. My recruiter told me to just disclose everything to the BI when I get to that point.

Saved for the BI.

[getthecrit]

getthecrit…You are way out of line. If you cannot accept criticism from a long time poster and experienced LEO, you are definitely not cut out for this profession.

100% disagree. That is NOT criticism. That is condescension. I’m a combat veteran, so flat out saying something like “saved your life” and “you’re not cut out for this line of work” is flat out disrespect. Criticism would have been telling me what they would have done differently. Why I was wrong for doing “such and such”. I have thick skin, but I don’t tolerate or back down from disrespect. When you find a cop that DOES, you let me know. (And no, this isn’t the same as dealing with a possible suspect on the street. This is a disagreement between two individuals on the same side.)

[vdfnco]

As a fellow veteran I can tell you military service and police service are not the same job. I've seen vets who couldn't cut it in law enforcement. I've also seen law enforcement who couldn't cut it in the military. To answer if you'll still get hired, I'd say it depends. The hiring agency will look at the incident and consider if it makes you a liability for them. If they believe their liability is increased to high they won't hire you. If they believe their liability is within a safe range you could be considered. Personally I see it similar to you discussing information of a case with an offender of another case without cause. Not a personal shot just how it came across my computer screen.

[NolaT]

And you truly believe he’s not doing this to try and curry favor with you or other CO’s,…….?

[CCCSD]

Your higher ups and supervisors encourage you to build rapport with inmates to mitigate the chances of you or other officers assaulted. No use in being a stone cold dick head and end up getting stabbed. But that doesn’t mean be their best friends and be at their every beck and call either. But I can honestly say there were multiple inmates that would put someone out of a pod for disrespecting me and several other specific officers, because we treated them like human beings. Most of them are in there for drug charges, nothing violent in any way. The inmate I was speaking with specifically was also the one that basically controlled the whole pod. Every inmate in there wouldn’t dare question him. So if I ever needed everyone to lock down because of an emergency, or belligerence, he would make sure it happened.

So you routinely disclose confidential information to inmates, resulting in a beat down. You’d be fired and charged in my state.

BTW: Marine Corps is always capitalized, by Marines.

Poser.

[CCCSD]

100% disagree. That is NOT criticism. That is condescension. I’m a combat veteran, so flat out saying something like “saved your life” and “you’re not cut out for this line of work” is flat out disrespect. Criticism would have been telling me what they would have done differently. Why I was wrong for doing “such and such”. I have thick skin, but I don’t tolerate or back down from disrespect. When you find a cop that DOES, you let me know. (And no, this isn’t the same as dealing with a possible suspect on the street. This is a disagreement between two individuals on the same side.)

Ho hum…another “combat veteran”. You must be the only one ever.

You need to learn quite a bit about life.

BTW…you got “disrespected “ and played by that “pod boss”…unbelievably stupid.