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    as far as the domestic violence been charged with 9 things they all came down to one charge which was a harassment violation and to follow the order of protection first charged ever what are my chances ? ?

  • #2
    Zero, your chances are zero
    "A man can be beaten in two ways if he dies or if he gives up."
    "For those I love I will sacrifice."

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    • #3
      Done.
      Never.

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      • #4
        DV harassment conviction means you can never possess or control a firearm
        "I am a Soldier. I fight where I'm told and I win where I fight." -- GEN George S. Patton, Jr.

        "With a brother on my left and a sister on my right, we face…. We face what no one should face. We face, so no one else would face. We are in the face of Death." -- Holli Peet

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Abrafo97 View Post
          as far as the domestic violence been charged with 9 things they all came down to one charge which was a harassment violation and to follow the order of protection first charged ever what are my chances ? ?
          Zero.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Abrafo97 View Post
            as far as the domestic violence been charged with 9 things they all came down to one charge which was a harassment violation and to follow the order of protection first charged ever what are my chances ? ?
            And even if by some chance you are "firearm eligible"...................................NO agency CEO is going to want to be the person that hired you with that kind of past
            My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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            • #7
              0.000000000000000000000000

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              • #8
                Extremely low chance.

                Your best bet is to try to join the military (if they even accept you). Most likely if they do take you under their wing, you’ll be signing a waiver. Talk to your local recruiter if you can. Try to put some time in serving your country and proving yourself.

                People make mistakes, even though in your situation it’s unacceptable I would still try to work on bettering myself.

                You can even attempt to seal or expunge your record.

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                • #9
                  Sealing or expunging a record has almost no chance of being helpful to a LEO position. Law enforcement agencies can access “sealed or “expunged” records as needed. Even though you were able to reduce the 9 charges to 1, all will be available to any requesting agency.
                  Last edited by Dinosaur32; 11-30-2020, 05:17 PM.

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                  • #10
                    So can a degree still put me in that field at all besides carrying a gun ?

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                    • #11
                      Working as a LEO? No

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                      • #12
                        Without a degree, zero
                        With a degree, zero

                        I'm going to slightly change your post so you can see it from a different perspective. It is not meant to disrespect you at all. But image the person is applying to work in childcare.

                        as far as the sexual crimes been charged with 9 things they all came down to one charge which was a possession of child porn and to follow the order of protection first charged ever what are my chances ? ?

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                        • #13
                          a protective order alone will sink a career. Add a harrassment conviction on top of that and you have zero chance. Add the remaining charges (dropped or not) and there is really nothing you can do to unsink that titanic.

                          Putting in mildly, after doing this job a little while DV offenders are some of my biggest repeat customers. We aren't talking youthful indiscretion. With the harrassment charge you have a document pattern of conduct bad enough to actually get charged and convicted...this means you bypassed a lot of chances to stop your actions and continued. Add to this a protection order....not a peace order but a protection order for issues with an intimate partner and now you have even more stocked against you.

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                          • #14
                            You have to understand that when it comes to passing a background, no one is concerned with what was adjudicated in court. Such matters are usually predicated on negotiations and bargaining and rarely have anything to do with the reality of what really happened. Instead, the background looks at is what you actually did, irrespective of a court disposition.
                            Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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                            • 9L81
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                              Yup. Not sure why so many people don't understand this.

                          • #15
                            Your best bet is to try to join the military (if they even accept you).
                            With a DV conviction, not a chance. The only potentially unarmed position in any military is medical, but even there you may be in control of a firearm... a patient's sidearm, for example.

                            Sealing or expunging a record has almost no chance of being helpful to a LEO position
                            I don't think that prevents Lautenberg from applying... and no judge is going to seal or expunge a DV conviction anyway.

                            Instead, the background looks at is what you actually did, irrespective of a court disposition.
                            Yep. Just had a "attempted trespass of a dwelling" case dismissed as part of the plea agreement in the defendant's 4 other cases before the court. She pled guilty to one, the rest were dismissed. Doesn't mean she didn't do them all.

                            You had 9 charges. That's what you did. The one that you were convicted on is the plea agreement. We all know that, anybody who looks at your record will know that. The protection order and actual conviction are just icing on the cake.

                            I doubt even a fire department would hire you, or a police department as an unarmed CSO. Both are still positions of responsibility and trust.
                            "I am a Soldier. I fight where I'm told and I win where I fight." -- GEN George S. Patton, Jr.

                            "With a brother on my left and a sister on my right, we face…. We face what no one should face. We face, so no one else would face. We are in the face of Death." -- Holli Peet

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