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    i was forced to resign because i refused to work 2/16 hours shift in a weekend while carring a weapon as a security guard. i taught it was not safe for me or for others to carry a weapon and work 2/16 hours shift. i always taught what if someting happened in the last hour and i failed to use my weapon because i was so tired. i resigned and i went to the equal opportunities commission and reported them as being racial against me. we had phone trial or something like that and i think i lost . should i report that to my background investigator? it will look bad ? can this becalled as a civil suit? thanks

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    Originally posted by maradona1945
    i was forced to resign because i refused to work 2/16 hours shift in a weekend while carring a weapon as a security guard. i taught it was not safe for me or for others to carry a weapon and work 2/16 hours shift. i always taught what if someting happened in the last hour and i failed to use my weapon because i was so tired. i resigned and i went to the equal opportunities commission and reported them as being racial against me. we had phone trial or something like that and i think i lost . should i report that to my background investigator? it will look bad ? can this becalled as a civil suit? thanks

    I wouldn't consider law enforecement if you are worried about working long hours... I just thought you might like to know this interesting fact about LE.

    Answer all questions truthfully to your BI.

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    • #3
      it was not a question about working long hours it was a question of safety. they asked me to work from 8am to 8pm on saturday and come back at 8am on sunday and work until 8pm and come back monday and work anoter 8 am to finish my 40 hours,
      just think about the liability of using your weapon and missing or shooting somebody else in the last hours on sunday say 7pm on sunday. it was not safe at all to do that.

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      • #4
        I could be wrong, but last time I checked, an 8-to-8 shift was only 12 hours. So, by my calculations, it was only 24 hours in a two day period.

        Not to sound like a jerk, but I have worked my share of 8, 10, 12, even 14 hour shifts day after day as an armed rent-a-cop. It sucks, but in the last few hours of my shift, I was just as ready and aware as I was during the first few. But that all depends on your location (guarding a warehouse of toilet paper and bouncing at a 500-patron club are totally different).

        Be honest and let them know the situation if you think it would help. But, regardless how you decide to go about explaining it, don't lie on ANYTHING when you talk to the BI. If you've smoked pot, tell them. If you've stolen $10 from your employer, tell them. If you've performed various sexual acts on farm animals, tell them.
        Last edited by S.O.444; 03-27-2007, 11:15 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by maradona1945
          i was forced to resign because i refused to work 2/16 hours shift in a weekend while carring a weapon as a security guard. i taught it was not safe for me or for others to carry a weapon and work 2/16 hours shift. i always taught what if someting happened in the last hour and i failed to use my weapon because i was so tired. i resigned and i went to the equal opportunities commission and reported them as being racial against me. we had phone trial or something like that and i think i lost . should i report that to my background investigator? it will look bad ? can this becalled as a civil suit? thanks

          1.) 8 to 8 is 12 hours...

          2.) I've had to work 16 hours twice in a row and I was fine....

          3.)Telling the Equal opportunities commission that it was a racially motivated forced-to-resign situation is absolute B.S. If it was, then go for it, but if it was because you refused to work long hours, then you are a liar.

          4.) Disclose EVERYTHING to your B.I. The small things you never think they'll find out, they probably will in the most unlikely fashion. Be honest.

          5.) You "think" you lost? wow.

          Try not to take offense, but you seem to have issues with working long hours, being truthful (which is a BIG problem) and your memory. Either you need to get your priorities straight or I would suggest looking for a different line of work. (This is just my opinion)
          I disaprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. -Voltaire

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          • #6
            sorry guys 8am to12am

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shaidon
              1.) 8 to 8 is 12 hours...

              2.) I've had to work 16 hours twice in a row and I was fine....

              3.)Telling the Equal opportunities commission that it was a racially motivated forced-to-resign situation is absolute B.S. If it was, then go for it, but if it was because you refused to work long hours, then you are a liar.

              4.) Disclose EVERYTHING to your B.I. The small things you never think they'll find out, they probably will in the most unlikely fashion. Be honest.

              5.) You "think" you lost? wow.

              Try not to take offense, but you seem to have issues with working long hours, being truthful (which is a BIG problem) and your memory. Either you need to get your priorities straight or I would suggest looking for a different line of work. (This is just my opinion)
              my bad i was busy whenever i wrote this message.

              i meant 2/16 hours was from 8am to 12am saturday and sunday and i had to come back he next day and do 8 hours.
              and this change suposed to be my schedule week after week.
              i have no problem working long hours but i don't think that u would like to have a schedule like the one they offered me.
              and before i do anything i use my brain that means if i had to use my weapon and i failed because i was tired i will be liable.
              i work 12hours shift now with no problem but if they ask me to change my schedule to 16 hours shift i will refuse and quite.
              that was one way to make me quit.
              because it did happen to a friend of mine, they did not like him because of his color, this things still happen in some states. thats why i had to go to EOC.
              winning or losig was not my goal but guess what after the incident the security company was all let go from the chief to the last security officer.
              and for another time i have no issues if i work 16 hours shift if it is a emergency or another officer was sick or.... but won't work it as a schedule.
              Last edited by mansouri1945; 03-28-2007, 01:34 AM.

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              • #8
                Private security companies are notorious for working employees in the manner you described. You should know though, that long hours are quite often the lot of cops as well. If you based an EEOC complaint on racism, as in long hours, you were booking a loser from the get-go. That's about as plain as I can make it. The following advice could probably be considered racist, but believe me, it applies whether you're Christian, Jew, Muslim, Black,White, Native American, Oriental, Eskimo, or recently arrived from the far side of Mars. Use proper grammar and spelling. Your initial post is a disaster, and if that's how you fill out an application, the closest you'll ever come to law enforcement is working private security.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PhilipCal
                  Private security companies are notorious for working employees in the manner you described. You should know though, that long hours are quite often the lot of cops as well. If you based an EEOC complaint on racism, as in long hours, you were booking a loser from the get-go. That's about as plain as I can make it. The following advice could probably be considered racist, but believe me, it applies whether you're Christian, Jew, Muslim, Black,White, Native American, Oriental, Eskimo, or recently arrived from the far side of Mars. Use proper grammar and spelling. Your initial post is a disaster, and if that's how you fill out an application, the closest you'll ever come to law enforcement is working private security.
                  thanks for the advice for spelling errors, i have a problem with my keyboard.
                  but the big image of this forum is to tell you my problem not being judged of my spelling errors. and i have no problem passing all the writting tests, but thanks

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                  • #10
                    I'm curious here, you complained with the EOC because they were racially biased against you, but I haven't actually heard you mention what they did. Did they actually use bias against you personally?
                    "Our citizenship in the United States is our national character...Our great title is AMERICANS." - Thomas Paine

                    "The bitterest tears shed over graves are for words left unsaid and deeds left undone." - Harriet Beecher Stowe

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mansouri1945
                      thanks for the advice for spelling errors, i have a problem with my keyboard.
                      but the big image of this forum is to tell you my problem not being judged of my spelling errors. and i have no problem passing all the writting tests, but thanks
                      i think the "problem" lies with the user, not the keyboard.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by luv2Bblu
                        i think the "problem" lies with the user, not the keyboard.
                        ok if you say so. kid

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                        • #13
                          lol. i agree that it's the user and not the keyboard for the wrong grammar . but anyways, just wait until you work in law enforcement. you will be working undesirable long shifts. i was forced to work past my 10 hour shift to cover for another officer on the next shift because i was the rookie. sometimes you'll be working a split shift with like 5 hours of rest.. i know lots of officers that are older that work like 70 hours a week to get the OT

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