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  • LawyerCop
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    To address one of your earlier questions regarding being an attorney. You're toast there also. I sometimes wonder what the general public really think of cops in the sense that they apply the civilian "Oh, he was young, made a mistake, can't we all get along" crap from non LEO jobs to this profession. As an admitted felon, you are done in law enforcement.....period. Every kid gets a trophy does not work in police work.

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  • Song0330
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    Originally posted by mookster View Post
    Hoping you'll be involved already sounds like a duck out and excuses starting already. I know that when I have a family I will be involved and raise them to avoid a life of crime and be productive members of society (along with making sure they never want to be a cop.)

    Best of luck to you in whatever path you choose.
    I apologize, that was a bad choice of words on my part. I did mean to say that I WILL be involved in the raising of my offspring. Parents who do not involve themselves (or incorrectly involves themselves) in the raising on their children often force their children to learn life lessons the hard way and pay the consequences, as in my case. We all wish the best for the next generation. I appreciate you calling that out.

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  • Song0330
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    Originally posted by PhilipCal View Post
    Hey Junior, do I detect another dissatisfied poster? One who got his little panties in a wad because the forum told him the truth?. What was the score of the last ball game you played in, or did they keep score?. Each reply which you received was the 100% odds on truth. That's the only entitlement you have here, and you got it. So, if you desire to continue acting like a little tard who grew up in Hillary's Village, be prepared to be treated like one. ALL the replies you received were insightful. Apparently, you haven't attained the level of maturity which would enable you to see that. Recall please, that YOU came to us, not the other way around. Recall too, that we did not create your situation, YOU did. Deal with that.
    Wow, I think there is a misunderstanding here. I wasn't referring to all the other posters, just the one who contributed nothing to this thread besides a silly ancedote, and the other who told me I was better off working in the fast food industry. I understand you probably encounter many people in the field and on the forums who don't appreciate your input when it's something they do not want to hear - this is not the case here. As you can see from my post you quoted I am already moving on with my life due to the responses received, not "acting like a little tard who grew up in Hillary's Village". Sorry for the misunderstanding - your original reply was appreciated as well.

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  • mookster
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    How do I put this tactfully, you're toast. And I pray that you actually invest yourself in, if, you have kids. Hoping you'll be involved already sounds like a duck out and excuses starting already. I know that when I have a family I will be involved and raise them to avoid a life of crime and be productive members of society (along with making sure they never want to be a cop.)

    Best of luck to you in whatever path you choose.

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  • PhilipCal
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    Originally posted by Song0330 View Post
    Appreciate the insightful information, it is much more helpful than the heckling from the peanut gallery. It's very disappointing that the offense I committed (to which I am purposefully being evasive as this is a non-anonymous and very public forum) as a child would have such serious ramifications but it is understandable. When/if I have children of my own, I hope to be more involved in their lives to prevent them from making the same mistakes.

    Even if I cannot be a LEO, I still plan on serving in some type of public service capacity for the betterment of the people. This may be beyond the scope of the forum, but does anyone know if I would encounter the same obstacles for careers in the military, intelligence community, or as a criminal prosecutor?
    Hey Junior, do I detect another dissatisfied poster? One who got his little panties in a wad because the forum told him the truth?. What was the score of the last ball game you played in, or did they keep score?. Each reply which you received was the 100% odds on truth. That's the only entitlement you have here, and you got it. So, if you desire to continue acting like a little tard who grew up in Hillary's Village, be prepared to be treated like one. ALL the replies you received were insightful. Apparently, you haven't attained the level of maturity which would enable you to see that. Recall please, that YOU came to us, not the other way around. Recall too, that we did not create your situation, YOU did. Deal with that.

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  • FJDave
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    No. That is the answer to both your first question and the other question you just posted. Now for the heckling that you don't want....but can't do anything about because, well, you deserve it (see, you don't dictate how we respond to you): Practice the following phrase - it will serve you well in your future endeavors...."Would you like fries with that?"

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  • LA DEP
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    Originally posted by Song0330 View Post
    Appreciate the insightful information, it is much more helpful than the heckling from the peanut gallery. It's very disappointing that the offense I committed (to which I am purposefully being evasive as this is a non-anonymous and very public forum) as a child would have such serious ramifications but it is understandable. When/if I have children of my own, I hope to be more involved in their lives to prevent them from making the same mistakes.

    Even if I cannot be a LEO, I still plan on serving in some type of public service capacity for the betterment of the people. This may be beyond the scope of the forum, but does anyone know if I would encounter the same obstacles for careers in the military, intelligence community, or as a criminal prosecutor?
    Yes to all of those, depending on exactly what it was you did.

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  • Song0330
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    Originally posted by sgt jon View Post
    The genesis behind absolving someone of “youthful indiscretions” is to forgive minor misconduct; not as you put it “serious felony offenses”. Even if the statute of limitations has passed; which varies widely, you are still looking at major, if not insurmountable obstacles.
    Appreciate the insightful information, it is much more helpful than the heckling from the peanut gallery. It's very disappointing that the offense I committed (to which I am purposefully being evasive as this is a non-anonymous and very public forum) as a child would have such serious ramifications but it is understandable. When/if I have children of my own, I hope to be more involved in their lives to prevent them from making the same mistakes.

    Even if I cannot be a LEO, I still plan on serving in some type of public service capacity for the betterment of the people. This may be beyond the scope of the forum, but does anyone know if I would encounter the same obstacles for careers in the military, intelligence community, or as a criminal prosecutor?

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  • Jonnyboy182
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    To answer the OP-in ca if you ever committed a felony-you'll never get a job as a Leo. Had a buddy who graduated with me just fail out of bgi because of a felony when he was 14

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  • Iowa #1603
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    Originally posted by TK5 View Post
    If you want real opinions on the matter, you're going to have to give us the real story.

    Not really........................he stated SERIOUS FELONY twice. Even as a young person if he committed a serious felony...........no reputable agency will want him

    Originally posted by sgt jon View Post
    So what are his chances?
    About the same chance that a popcorn fart would be noticed during a hurricane.

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  • PhilipCal
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    Somehow, I'm beginning to think he already has. What he posed as hypothetical in his original post could very well represent what he did. If so, he has his answer.

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  • TK5
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    If you want real opinions on the matter, you're going to have to give us the real story.

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  • sgt jon
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    Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
    Nope

    at most reputable agencies----------if you admit to ANY of the above during a BI…………………….you would be toast.

    Some of those--------would probably get you arrested on the spot when you admitted to them


    If you did truly commit a “serious felony” I really doubt any major agency is going to want you as a member EVER


    Nope
    So what are his chances?

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  • Iowa #1603
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    Originally posted by Song0330 View Post
    I understand that some amount of "youthful indiscretions" are tolerated during the BI process, and most of the posters posting on this forum are worried about things they did in their late teens (smoking pot, stealing a CD, bedding their 17 year old girlfriend while they were 18, etc). How about when it comes to a serious felony offense at a younger age, say between 9-13? Would these be dismissed during BI with a "too young to understand" mentality, or would this red flag the applicant as "troubled youth, do not touch"?
    Nope

    Originally posted by Song0330 View Post
    By serious felony offense, I'm referring to things such as making or selling narcotics, credit card fraud, assault with a deadly weapon/attempted homicide, possession/distribution of child pornography, sexual assault, arson, computer hacking, armed robbery, etc.
    at most reputable agencies----------if you admit to ANY of the above during a BI…………………….you would be toast.

    Some of those--------would probably get you arrested on the spot when you admitted to them

    Originally posted by Song0330 View Post
    I can't say I'm asking out of sheer curiosity. I'm in my late 20s now and well-adjusted after learning life's lessons the hard way (I have kept my nose clean), but as a young youth around 2 decades ago I did commit a serious felony offense that went undetected/unreported. It's been haunting me like the ghost of Christmas past ever since and would be helpful for me to know if this will turn into a "maybe, depending on the circumstances" vs a "probably/definitely no chance", as I have some difficult decisions to make regarding my education very soon.
    If you did truly commit a “serious felony” I really doubt any major agency is going to want you as a member EVER

    Originally posted by Song0330 View Post
    Sidenote: I am looking at LEO occupations at both the federal and local levels, if your response differs for either
    Nope

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  • sgt jon
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    Originally posted by Michigan View Post
    All right I give up! I was trying to get a confession from this guy and you people are ruining it!! : )



    I think it's obvious... One day while making meth he decided to buy supplies and used a credit card that he stole from his dad. He went to pick up the supplies from the store and assaulted an employee with a deadly weapon, almost killing him when the guy asked, "hey kid! what are you doing, making meth or something." Later that day he decided to sell his stack of child pornography to a random stranger incase his dad came snooping around his room looking for the credit card. When he got home he "flipped" and sexual assaulted his neighber and started his house on fire to cover the crime. He had no choice but to hack into the computer mainframe of his school to change his grades to an 'A' because he spent all day making dope instead of studying. He was very hungry after a long day and robbed a bank on the way to Mcdonalds to grab a happy meal.
    So does this mean he is out of the running for a LE job?

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