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  • zack_kcaz
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    Yeah same here...I applied for a local PD(in Ohio) and marked yes on "Have you smoked marijuana more than 10 times in a year?"

    HR woman told me sorry, auto DQ, BUT she talked to the civil service board and they said go ahead and turn my app in and they will review my application...
    No call yet sooo so far so good..I expect them to pull me out though.. even If it was 10 years ago, and I've been to combat twice and have a fairly clean record(minus traffic tickets)

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  • Iowa #1603
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    Qualifications were a lot more lax in yrs past.

    None of the above applied when I started in LE 35 yrs ago-----------------if you were actively breathing you could get hired back then in many departments.

    Personally , with your background, I wonder about the department that would pass on you ........most would kill for that kind of experience...............but if you meet one of their auto DQ's------they usually mean automatic.

    By the way those questions on the Iowa DPS website are just the automatic ones.............There is a disclaimer about all other behavior will be evaluated.

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  • Minnesota 19
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    I was honestly able to answer to no to those 6 questions. Thanks for your time. I guess I never should have been allowed to be a cop.

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  • Ohio5-0
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    Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post
    Wow

    My GUESS would be the highlighted phrases...............some departments have hard fast DQ rules they won't bend no matter how long ago it happened.
    Yep
    Those would DQ you probably everywhere in Ohio too.
    Drugs r bad, mmmmmmkay??

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  • Iowa #1603
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    In Iowa...........15x marijuana use would DQ you...................forever.


    It's just the rules.........................many places don't care how long ago or if you saved the life of the Governor....

    http://www.dps.state.ia.us/commis/pr...ications.shtml

    To determine whether you meet the Department's drug policy, please answer the following questions:

    1. Have you used marijuana at all within the last two years?
    2. Have you used marijuana more than a total of 15 times in your life?
    3. Have you used any other illegal drug (including anabolic steroids after February 27, 1991) at all in the past 10 years?
    4. Have you used an other illegal drug (including anabolic steroids after February 27, 1991) more than a total of five times in your life?
    5. Have you ever sold any illegal drug for profit?
    6. Have you ever used an illegal drug (no matter how many times or how long ago) while in a law enforcement or prosecutorial position, or in a position which carries with it a high level of responsibility or public trust?

    If you answered YES to any of the above six questions, you are immediately disqualified and should NOT apply for a peace officer position with the Department of Public Safety.

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  • Minnesota 19
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    But I am 52 yoa. The highlighted area was over 30 yrs ago. Is it a Arizona post board thing or the department I applied for thing? Is there any Arizona coppers out there that know?

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  • Iowa #1603
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    Originally posted by Minnesota 19 View Post
    Looking for Answers.

    I have 22 yrs in with a large mid west city police dept. Flawless personal record with 2 minor disiplines when I was a rookie. I was on SWAT, K-9, and been working on a federal violent crime task force for the past 10 yrs. I went through a FBI back ground check and had top seceret security clearence.
    Short story. I just went through the hiring process for a mid size local law enforcement agency in Az. They were treating me like gold. I was offered a conditional job offer. Went back out last week for the polygraph, psyc, and medical exam. 24 hrs after I got back personnal called me and said a decesion had been made to pull the conditional job offer. Due to the job offer contract I signed they were not going to tell me why.
    It has to be the Polygraph. Knew nothing about it, 1st time. Was honest cause i felt I had nothing to hid. Admitted to the following:
    Smoked marj. 12-15x in college over 30 yrs ago.
    Tried cocaine once " "
    Tried Mushrooms once " "

    Did one 6 week cycle of steriods when I was 19 yoa
    Stole a pair of 100.00 ski's when I was 18 yoa.

    I am crushed, looking for closure.
    Wow

    My GUESS would be the highlighted phrases...............some departments have hard fast DQ rules they won't bend no matter how long ago it happened.

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  • Minnesota 19
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    Looking for Answers.

    I have 22 yrs in with a large mid west city police dept. Flawless personal record with 2 minor disiplines when I was a rookie. I was on SWAT, K-9, and been working on a federal violent crime task force for the past 10 yrs. I went through a FBI back ground check and had top seceret security clearence.
    Short story. I just went through the hiring process for a mid size local law enforcement agency in Az. They were treating me like gold. I was offered a conditional job offer. Went back out last week for the polygraph, psyc, and medical exam. 24 hrs after I got back personnal called me and said a decesion had been made to pull the conditional job offer. Due to the job offer contract I signed they were not going to tell me why.
    It has to be the Polygraph. Knew nothing about it, 1st time. Was honest cause i felt I had nothing to hid. Admitted to the following:
    Smoked marj. 12-15x in college over 30 yrs ago.
    Tried cocaine once " "
    Tried Mushrooms once " "
    Did one 6 week cycle of steriods when I was 19 yoa
    Stole a pair of 100.00 ski's when I was 18 yoa.

    I am crushed, looking for closure.

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  • SGT53
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    Originally posted by PhilipCal View Post
    My colleagues have alluded to it, but in a properly administered Polygraph exam there should be no surprises. Prior to the actual exam, the Examiner will go over all the questions he/she proposes to ask you. It's at this time that you'll have the opportunity to explain any answers which might cause a reaction from the instrument. In the actual Polygraph exam, you'll be required to answer "Yes" or "No" to the questions.
    +++1, well said

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  • Bearcat357
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    Originally posted by DWM811 View Post
    My question is, why is everyone so worried about the polygraph, its not like it can detect actual lies, just the way your body is reacting to the Q&A situation, am I correct? So as long as you aren't sweating bullets, breathing like you don't have oxygen, or your heart isn't beating out of your chest, wouldn't at least all your answers come back inconclusive?
    I've taken (5) Poly's over my lifetime....I failed (2) of them and was being completely honest with the dude....

    What further irrates me.....is that one dude did mine TWICE.... about 6 weeks apart... Failed first one passed second one....

    SAME FREAKING QUESTIONS.....

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  • Iowa #1603
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    Originally posted by DWM811 View Post
    My question is, why is everyone so worried about the polygraph, its not like it can detect actual lies, just the way your body is reacting to the Q&A situation, am I correct? So as long as you aren't sweating bullets, breathing like you don't have oxygen, or your heart isn't beating out of your chest, wouldn't at least all your answers come back inconclusive?
    You are correct in the fact that the polygraph measures reactions of your body.

    You are not correct on the rest of your assumptions.

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  • DWM811
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    My question is, why is everyone so worried about the polygraph, its not like it can detect actual lies, just the way your body is reacting to the Q&A situation, am I correct? So as long as you aren't sweating bullets, breathing like you don't have oxygen, or your heart isn't beating out of your chest, wouldn't at least all your answers come back inconclusive?

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  • jm23
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    On behalf of all us applicants...thanks to those who have the patience to answer questions that have been asked time and time again...and constantly expand on those answers to help all us curious first time applicants out.

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  • PhilipCal
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    My colleagues have alluded to it, but in a properly administered Polygraph exam there should be no surprises. Prior to the actual exam, the Examiner will go over all the questions he/she proposes to ask you. It's at this time that you'll have the opportunity to explain any answers which might cause a reaction from the instrument. In the actual Polygraph exam, you'll be required to answer "Yes" or "No" to the questions.

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  • Iowa #1603
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    During the actual polygraph run the only permissible answers are Yes or No.

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