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    Ok so I'm 23 years old now and I've got testing in June with the MO State Highway Patrol. Since obtaining my driver's license at the age of 16 I've received about 10 traffic violations, ranging from speeding to expired insurance. The insurance was waived because I did have valid insurance just the wrong card in the vehicle at the time. I've also been in about 4 car accidents since 2006, three of which were my fault and 2 of which were one car accidents. It's been a while since any accidents/tickets but do you think this will lower my chances of being hired or what? and also, if yes, what is a reasonable amount of time to wait before reapplying? Thanks.

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    Yes I think this "lowers your chances of being hired".

    You can apply whenever you want; I probably would never hire you. Of course I'm assuming you couldn't go the next 7 years without another citation or accident. I suppose 7 years would be the magic number for me.

    I'm sure there are plenty of people that are more forgiving than me and plenty of people who aren't. Good luck.

    FYI: you contradict your self a few time in your own post. You're either lying or don't have your facts straight.
    Ok so I'm 23 years old now and I've got testing in June with the MO State Highway Patrol. Since obtaining my driver's license at the age of 16 I've received about 10 traffic violations, ranging from speeding to expired insurance. The insurance was waived because I did have valid insurance just the wrong card in the vehicle at the time. I've also been in about 4 car accidents since 2006, three of which were my fault and 2 of which were one car accidents. It's been a while since any accidents/tickets but do you think this will lower my chances of being hired or what? and also, if yes, what is a reasonable amount of time to wait before reapplying? Thanks.

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    • #3
      I'm not lying about anything, I don't feel lying is ever necessary. 4 accidents total, three were my fault. TWO out of those same 3 were one car accidents. does that make more sense now? And actually it hasn't been nearly 7 years but it has been more than two, but thanks for your honest opinions sir

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      • #4
        I would apply shortly after you are eligible for AARP.

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        “All men dream...... But not equally..
        Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it is vanity;
        but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,
        for they act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible.....”

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        • #5
          Ten violations/accidents in seven years= not good. While I'm not totally conversant with the policy of the Missouri Highway Patrol, I can tell you what it's sister agency, the Alabama Department of Public Safety has to say on the subject. "Any record of violations/arrests which evidence a pattern of disregard/disrespect for the law, are grounds for disqualification". I would be surprised if the Missouri Highway Patrol doesn't have a similar standard. Let me put my reply a little more plainly. Your driving record sucks. Time will possibly be your ally. My sense is that you're going to need at least three, possibly five years of violation free/accident free driving in order to have a chance. You need to consider too, that the current LE market has a glut of highly qualified candidates. These candidates will not bring your issues to the hiring process, and thus will emerge as considerably more viable applicants than you will. You may wish to check with a Recruiter for specifics, but don't be too surprised if what we've advised you doesn't turn out to be the truth.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by stl_314 View Post
            Ok so I'm 23 years old now and I've got testing in June with the MO State Highway Patrol. Since obtaining my driver's license at the age of 16 I've received about 10 traffic violations, ranging from speeding to expired insurance. The insurance was waived because I did have valid insurance just the wrong card in the vehicle at the time. I've also been in about 4 car accidents since 2006, three of which were my fault and 2 of which were one car accidents. It's been a while since any accidents/tickets but do you think this will lower my chances of being hired or what? and also, if yes, what is a reasonable amount of time to wait before reapplying? Thanks.
            You have only been driving for 7 years, so define, "it's been a while"???

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            • #7
              Originally posted by PhilipCal View Post
              Ten violations/accidents in seven years= not good. While I'm not totally conversant with the policy of the Missouri Highway Patrol, I can tell you what it's sister agency, the Alabama Department of Public Safety has to say on the subject. "Any record of violations/arrests which evidence a pattern of disregard/disrespect for the law, are grounds for disqualification". I would be surprised if the Missouri Highway Patrol doesn't have a similar standard. Let me put my reply a little more plainly. Your driving record sucks. Time will possibly be your ally. My sense is that you're going to need at least three, possibly five years of violation free/accident free driving in order to have a chance. You need to consider too, that the current LE market has a glut of highly qualified candidates. These candidates will not bring your issues to the hiring process, and thus will emerge as considerably more viable applicants than you will. You may wish to check with a Recruiter for specifics, but don't be too surprised if what we've advised you doesn't turn out to be the truth.
              Iowa is a little more lenient than Alabama.....................but note that the final sentence is that all other conduct will be evaluated.

              Your competition will have a lot better driving record than you will................. it will probably take you another 4-5 yrs............

              The Iowa Department of Public Safety (Iowa State Patrol)

              Applicants must possess a valid license. An applicant will not be considered for employment at this time if:

              * Driving privileges have been suspended, cancelled or revoked in the three (3) years prior to receipt of their application due to a moving traffic violation(s). These violations include, but are not limited to: driving while intoxicated, suspended, revoked or barred. Other suspensions, cancellations or revocations will be evaluated.
              * Conviction of five (5) moving violations in the three (3) years prior to the receipt of their application.

              Other conduct not specified will be evaluated.
              Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

              My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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              • #8
                I like to be on the optimistic side, but it don't look good brother. Now lets say that 7 years down the road you have no further infractions and you want to apply.........well, maybe. With that said, you are the only one that can really find the answer. If you want to test, give it a whirl and see how it goes. At the very least maybe you can get some answers as to what it would take to be considered with them in the future.

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                • #9
                  okay so lets bring up other decently good points of my application, I'm bilingual and have an associates degree in CJ I've kept steady jobs and had one job that i worked for 4 yrs another for close to two and my current one as security at a casino for one yr... I'm beginning to volunteer on saturday and many times after that I hope. never done any kind of illegal drugs not even marijuana. I would like to know what I can start doing now to help me achieve this goal of becoming a police officer even with my record?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by stl_314 View Post
                    I would like to know what I can start doing now to help me achieve this goal of becoming a police officer even with my record?
                    Stop getting pulled over.
                    Last edited by Ohio5-0; 04-08-2011, 12:34 AM.

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                    • #11
                      I'd hire you. But you'd get a bicycle or a segway for your first 5 years of service.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by stl_314 View Post
                        okay so lets bring up other decently good points of my application, I'm bilingual and have an associates degree in CJ I've kept steady jobs and had one job that i worked for 4 yrs another for close to two and my current one as security at a casino for one yr... I'm beginning to volunteer on saturday and many times after that I hope. never done any kind of illegal drugs not even marijuana. I would like to know what I can start doing now to help me achieve this goal of becoming a police officer even with my record?
                        OK, let's deal with what for you is a trade off. Your accomplishments are commendable, and I wish to take nothing away from them. Keep up any efforts at good citizenship, and do that simply because it's the right thing to do. Quite a few prospective applicants feel that negatives in their backgrounds can be offset by "X" number of positive accomplishments. The process really doesn't work that way. In fact, all too often, one "awe s....t wipes out a thousand atta-boys". Your particular situation is not hopeless, but you're simply going to have to put some time.(3-5yrs) between your last violation and your application.What should you do? Ohio 5-0 answered that. "Stop betting pulled over". Once more consider that should you enter the process now, you'll be competing against candidates who don't bring your Motor Vehicle History issues to the table, and who's accomplishments either equal or exceed yours. We assume that in approaching the forum(s) you desired honest replies. Well, here they are. Clean up your act a little, let some time go by, and possibly you'll have a shot. It's up to you.

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                        • #13
                          You have experienced more citations and accidents than most people have in a lifetime. You expect me to hire you and let you have control of a company car. Not gonna happen. Keep it clean for the next 5-10 years then we would sit down and talk about it.

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                          • #14
                            You've received good advice here. You are, at this present time, a liability.
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                            I don't agree with your opinion, but I respect its straightforwardness in terms of wrongness.

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                            • #15
                              I appreciate the honest advice from all of you and I have been working on being pulled over last time I received a ticket was in 12/08, while it has not been three years yet it will be soon enough. I plan on working on this to my fullest extent and hope to be part of LE one day sooner than later, without being a liability. Thanks again.

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