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  • What would my chances be at your LE agency?

    Like many others in this section, I'm going to divulge the shameful parts of my past to get opinions on whether or not I would be a good candidate for LEO or not. I've been reading through various other threads and nothing really matches my experience that I've found (I admit though, I haven't read EVERYTHING).

    First, a little history. I've never really known what I wanted to be when I grew up. No career ever jumped out at me and got me excited. I've known various LEOs through my Dad being in the military with them, and in various martial arts schools that I've gone to, as well as my gym, etc. One of my best friends became an officer when he was 21 and I've met a lot of others through him. They all have one thing in common, they absolutely LOVE their jobs. When I started college at 18, I had every intention of getting a four year degree and becoming an LEO. It soon became apparent to me that I was not mature enough for that and I lost my way again. I did work security at a hotel and bar for 6 months after college and I really liked dealing with people, even the hostile ones. I ended up with a Bachelor's degree and got a job with my state as a rehab counselor in 2004 and have been doing that ever since. I've earned a Masters Degree since then as well. It's been over 5 years now, and one thing is clear - I'VE GOT TO FIND SOMETHING ELSE. I cannot be behind a desk for the rest of my career. I'm going to go crazy.

    So once again, I'm considering LE as a career. It has always been in the back of my mind. I've just always assumed that because I wasn't a boy scout all of my life, that I'd have no chance of being hired. My friend seems to think that I would have a good chance of being hired, but his is just one opinion. He thinks that with my education, my great physical conditioning, my healthy appreciation and practice of combat arts, and the fact that it's been over 8 years now since I've been in any real trouble would make me stand out over many applicants.

    Here's the bad. What's on my record:
    1996: speeding ticket
    1999: cited for possession of alcohol by a minor (18 at the time)
    2000: speeding ticket
    Sept. 2001: arrested for Alcohol Intoxication (21 at the time)
    Sept. 2006: speeding ticket

    What's not on my record, but I've still done?
    At age 16, like most teenagers, I was stupid and impressionable. My first official job was at a gas station. I worked with an older guy that I thought was cool at the time. He and the other employees would usually grab a soda or candy bar or whatever from time to time and not pay for it. I did so too a handful of times because I wanted to fit in with them. That's stealing. I was never caught, but it was still wrong, and I did know better. Just too stupid to care at the time I guess. I know I'll be asked on the polygraph about stealing, so I'm not going to lie, but surely my age would be taken into account, right? Will they even ask about things you did before being a legal adult?

    Also did some other stupid crap as a teen such as egging stuff. Which I guess qualifies as vandalism, minor as it may be.

    One thing I've never done though is illegal drugs (other than being too young to try alcohol and tobacco). Never even took a puff of weed. And God knows I was around enough of that stuff. Virtually everyone I hung out with smoked at some point in our friendship.

    I'm now 29, 5 years into a professional career, settled, married, and have started a family. No trouble other than a speeding ticket in last 8 years. How would I measure up at your departments? Should I even attempt to go through the application process?

    I also just gotta say, I went on a ride-along a few weeks ago on a saturday night and had an absolute blast!

    Sorry for the long post guys and gals. If you made it through all that crap, thanks for your time.

  • #2
    One life to live

    From the surface and what you've written, you seem like a genuine guy. A complete background and polygraph will reveal the real truth. Based on what you've written, your age, education, "stupidity" due to immaturity, and on and on.....sounds like any other applicants. No one is perfect, and the good thing is they judge each candidate individually.

    The fact that you have not touch drugs, is a definite plus.......Your tickets, alcohol possession, are all minor misdemeanors or infractions in C.A. and would not DQ you.

    How is your credit? Anything that is in collections, or arrears needs to be brought current before you apply, or else you are wasting your time. (Ex. $25000 dollars in debt with your credit card, Repossession of vehicle, Tax liens, or a Verizon phone bill from your College days in collection) If applicable to you, you'll need to contact them, and set up a payment program. Just start paying $ 20 to $30 dollars a month, until you finish the amount due.....Why? This will show good faith, and that you are a responsible person.......

    Contact me at [email protected] (ref:13270) and I'll send you a copy of my book.....FREE. It will open your eyes, and prepare you for the entire process.

    Good luck and test well.

    Cpl.. LeQuang
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    • #3
      You have a pretty good chance. Saints don't make the best cops. As for the theft they usually ask if have ever taken anything from an employer, how much did it cost, or they ask if you ever stolen anything over/under $50 (2 seperate questions) We have all done things in our youth, but being able to mature and move past the issue is the number 1 thing. You should apply, and don't get discouraged if you don't get the first one, it took me 8 trys to find the department I fit in with. Good luck.


      • #4
        I don't know. Try applying.

        “All men dream...... But not equally..
        Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it is vanity;
        but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,
        for they act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible.....”

        TE Lawrence


        • #5
          I don't think you'd be DQd here.


          • #6
            I agree with the previous replies. I'd start by doing some research. Much of this can be done on line. Check the websites of agencies which interest you. Measure yourself objectively in light of their entry requirements. It's also imperative that you test well. This is especially true in Civil Service exams. There are any number of aids and study guides available at very resonable cost, which can help prepare you for the written exams. You're going to have considerable competition, especially given the current state of the economy. You should be familiar with this, as you already hold a state job. Get started, and good luck.


            • #7
              You have some marks against you but nothing that's uncommon or disqualifying. A little suggestion on the workplace theft thing: swallow your price, estimate how much you owe on the stolen stuff and go back and pay the employer back. It's humbling but nothing says "I grew up" like doing your best to make it right later one. Just my 2c.


              • #8
                Thanks for all the replys.

                I guess the general consensus is that I'm not a LE leper or anything. That's good.

                I'm confident in my ability to pass the written test, and physical tests. I'm a little nervous about being interviewed by 5 people at once, but I'll get through it. I'm really just concerned about those things from my past screwing me out of something that I really want to do. It was a long time ago and I'm not that guy anymore. I really regret not joining the military after high school. It would have grown me up faster and maybe I would have avoided some of those things. What's done is done though. I'm not going to lie about anything, as painful and embarassing as I'm sure it will be. The Officers that I've spoken to about the polygraph all say that I'll feel like I've been raped when it's over and I'll probably feel like I don't have a chance of getting the job.

                Anyway, to answer your question, wayno1806 - no, I don't have any credit problems or huge debt. I pay all my bills on time every month, even when that means taking a second job. I just quit one at the end of March. I spent 8 months working 7 days a week in order to pay off hospital bills. And now I've just recently taken on another part-time job to make ends meet. I believe in paying my debts as quick as possible, even if it means working harder than everyone else.

                That is another thing that is motivating my desire for a career change though. I've got to find a better paying job. I've applied to a crap load of jobs within my field over the last two years and haven't even gotten 1 interview. Time to get out of this line of work in my opinion. I don't want to spend the rest of my life working two jobs and I'd like to have at least one more kid, so I've got to find a way to move out of this shack that I call a house. With just three of us, we're already walking all over each other.


                • #9
                  i don't mean to hijack this thread but because debt was already discussed here i figured this was better than making a new thread (searching came up with too many threads and couldn't find my answer). how do local/federal agencies feel about student loan debt? how do they view a candidate who's only fault is having > $50k in student loans to pay back?


                  • #10
                    Ive done worse than you have and Im on the road living the dream.


                    • #11
                      Nothing you listed would disqualify you with my agency.

                      I don't agree with your opinion, but I respect its straightforwardness in terms of wrongness.


                      • #12
                        Absolutely nothing in there would disqualify you with my agency. We're not too concerned with what you did at 16, unless it was something like robbery or something sex offense related. Additionally, it's pretty universally understood that if you work at a gas get a soda and a hot dog every now and then.

                        I'm sure you'll find a LE job.
                        Originally posted by K40
                        To me, open carry is the equivalent of the couple making out and groping each other at the food court in the mall. Yeah, they are probably legal, as long as they don't start getting undressed. But they are still social retards.
                        ‎"You go for a man hard enough and fast enough, he don't have time to think about how many's with him; he thinks about himself, and how he might get clear of that wrath that's about to set down on him." - Rooster Cogburn


                        • #13
                          You'd have a good chance of being hired here as well.
                          The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed.

                          I Am the Sheepdog.

                          "And maybe just remind the few, if ill of us they speak,
                          that we are all that stands between
                          the monsters and the weak." - Michael Marks



                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bangarang
                            i don't mean to hijack this thread but because debt was already discussed here i figured this was better than making a new thread (searching came up with too many threads and couldn't find my answer). how do local/federal agencies feel about student loan debt? how do they view a candidate who's only fault is having > $50k in student loans to pay back?
                            It's not so much the debt as how you handle it. It's better to have a lot of debt that you're on top of than a little debt that you have late payments on. It's a measure of responsibility.


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