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  • do you guys really hate bike riders and skateboarders?

    i ride a bmx bike, as in doing tricks and things on it. i ride in downtown chicago alot, and occaisonally get stopped by the police, and instead of being nice, they're complete *******s. they swear, yell at us, call us delinquents and things like that. what im wondering is if you guys really see it as a huge deal that were doing the things we do, or if we seem like an easy target to vent your day's frustration?

    also, i was at a skatepark where bikes arent allowed, and ive only been kicked out of there once, and when i did, the officer came in the park, told all of us *******s to leave now or hed arrest us all, and then when two other cars pulled up, and we were about to leave, they started doing donuts and burnouts in the parking lot, infront of about 70 people that were at the park. could they get in serious trouble for being this irresponsible?

    another question. i recently got a pair of plastic pegs for my bike, and if you stopped me grinding a ledge and would have other wise cited me for vandalism, would the plastic barends, plastic pegs, and rubber tires sway your opinion as to whether i was causing damage? i ask because having pegs made of plastic means the only metal to touch the ledge would be pedals, and thats pretty rare unless you fall right.

  • #2
    I don't hate skateboarders or bike riders. I wish some had more respect for others property.

    Also, a lot of them are around businesses and the business has a genuine reason for not allowing you there (Safety of their customers and liability.)



    Don't tell anyone I used the word "liability"....I think it is owned by the Chief.
    "Do not be deceived:Bad company corrupts good morals."
    1 Corinthians 15:

    You are the weapon, everything else is just a tool

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    • #3
      I wish some had more respect for others property.
      Tx summed it up with this quote.

      What you and your friends don't seem to understand is you tie up a police officer who could be dealing with more serious crimes by trespassing and/or damaging property by your hobby.

      I could care less, but when property owners call, we have to act on it.

      Aside from that, it is a liability. If you get hurt in a parking lot or other area, there is a likelihood that a lawsuit can occur, and the property owner doesn't want to deal with that, hence why they don't want you there.

      Best thing for you and your friends to do is write your local politicians and try to get a skate park. That way, waivers can be signed and if you get hurt, you can't blame anyone but yourself.
      I'm 10-8 like a shark in a sea of crime..

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SgtScott31 View Post

        What you and your friends don't seem to understand is you tie up a police officer who could be dealing with more serious crimes by trespassing and/or damaging property by your hobby.

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        the thing about this is that the officer who kicked us out of the skatepark said to us that he'd rather see us doing drugs and participating in gangs than riding our bikes in the skatepark.

        and believe me, im more than respectful when im stopped, because i know if im nice to the cop, theres a much better chance that he or she will be polite back, and if im rude, they could just arrest me. i totally understand that you have to respond when a business owner calls though, because of the liability thing.

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        • #5
          Agreed. I skated and rode BMX when I was younger. I'm glad to see kids out doing something. What you fail to understand is you're generally trespassing on other folks' property. If they don't care, I don't care. If they call, I come and chase you off. End of story.

          If you show a little bit of respect to people, they'll generally respond in kind.
          d

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Blatant View Post
            What you fail to understand is you're generally trespassing on other folks' property. If they don't care, I don't care. If they call, I come and chase you off. End of story.

            If you show a little bit of respect to people, they'll generally respond in kind.
            d
            Absolutely true. My kids go to the local skatepark and although they don't skate themselves, a majority of their friends do. I like 'em all. Tha being said, more often than not, the Police are responding to a CITIZEN COMPLAINT. We can not ignore that complaint AND we would much rather tie up our recources on a more serious crime.

            The reason that these Cops might not be as polite as you would like them to be is most likely because they have to keep coming back over and over again about the same issues. At that point, we all start to become a bit "mean".
            "Let's walk down there and F!$#@ 'em all"....Hodges (Colors)

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            • #7
              No, I don't hate those people, but I do disapprove of much of what they do.

              For example, I have seen them riding up and down on handicapped access ramps, making blind turns and nearly hitting pedestrians in front of museums, where most of the visitors are older, rolling out into traffic at high speeds, and, in general, taking unreasonable risks that will end up costing the public money. In addition, they make a lot of noise, which can be quite disturbing, especially in a park.

              Their disregard for safety and the rights of others is appalling. I often suspect that the purpose of their conduct is to annoy others.
              Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
              Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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              • #8
                Perhaps you caught the officer on a bad day - we are human. You may have been the 300th skater/BMXer that he/she had to deal with that week. It gets old when you have to respond to the library 6 times a shift to chase the kids off he steps. And when the edges of the steps wear down / crack off because of all the grinding, who do you think has to pay for all of this? I had to respond to a rescue call where an elderly man lost his footing, fell and broke his hip because the edge lip of the step had been broken off (most likely by a skater). He heirs sued the county (county library) when he ended up dying due to complications in the surgery to repair his hip.

                There is a place and time for everything. I think it's great that you and your friends are outside exercising rather than playing an X-Box, but you have to be mindful of other's property, other's rights to navigate the street / sidewalk / stairs freely, other's rights not to feel intimidated by a group of youngsters that have taken over a section of park, etc. Perception is everything. When a cop asks you to move on, the general response is "Why?". Wrong answer. "Yes Sir, sorry to be a bother" would be much better. Not saying you or your friends were rude - I wasn't there.

                I certainly don't "hate" these youngsters. I used to have a skate board (we had asbestos wheels back then - the days before urethane) and had modified my Huffy bike to go off dirt jumps in the vacant lots near where I grew up. Different times, to be sure. If you were asked to leave a certain area, probably a good bet that you will be asked to leave again, so find a new place.
                LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO DRINK CHEAP BEER!

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                • #9
                  I dont like the emo ones.

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                  • #10
                    Let me put this in perspective for you. Right after I retired, I managed a sporting goods store. We had a nice big sign that prohibited bikes & skateboards.
                    I had customers afraid to enter or leave the store, because bikers & skateborders were riding the railings in front of the store. When I would tell them to leave, they would curse and wave their middle fingers at me, in front of women and children. They damaged the rails, but never offered to pay for repairs.
                    Then they would ride in the parking lot, weaving in and out of moving cars, nearly causing accidents. Often, they would urinate on the side of our building, and smoke dope by our loading dock. Litter was a constant problem, even though we had a garbage can in front of the store.
                    It was only after I make friends with some of the local cops that they moved on.

                    This in a town that had a skate park!

                    So, what is to like about these riders? Rude, offensive, dirty, disrespectful. Generally, they are a waste of skin. And when the store was closed, they all thought the sign did not apply! But if they got hurt, mommy and daddy would be sure to sue us.
                    In short, tresspassing is a crime, and I hate criminals - all criminals!
                    "A man who has nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the existing of better men than himself."
                    John Stuart Mill

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                    • #11
                      Prior to my retirement from the Alabama Dept of Public Safety, I worked the Capitol Police Unit. Skateboarders,rollerbladers where an occassional enforcement contact. 99% of the time, the kids were pretty cool. Certainly, some of the issues Dal noted were present. We'd mention these to the kids, and they'd pretty well understand our concerns. To the Original Poster. It has to be a mutual respect issue. If you're simply out there to see how many folks you can inconvenience or p****off, you're probably going to get a little attitude from the cops. Not saying you are, just saying IF you are. The one word answer to your question, at least from my perspective is "No".

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                      • #12
                        I dont hate skaterboards, especially since I use to be one when I was younger. I use to get kicked out of places by the department that I work for now .

                        Not too long ago, I was trollin....and came across two kids skateboarding. I asked them to do some tricks then told them that I use to skateboard when I was younger. So..one of them challnege me to a game of "S.K.A.T.E" while I was in uniform. So..I did!

                        It was like riding a bike, I did all the flip tricks and beat the kid. His friend was laughing at him and then he asked for a rematch, so I said "Nope, I want this to settle in for about 6 months and I want you to remember that a cop in uniform just beat you at SKATE. So his friend laughed at him and I drove off with him chasing me screaming for a rematch.

                        I think I made some friends

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by thisisastickup View Post
                          the thing about this is that the officer who kicked us out of the skatepark said to us that he'd rather see us doing drugs and participating in gangs than riding our bikes in the skatepark.

                          and believe me, im more than respectful when im stopped, because i know if im nice to the cop, theres a much better chance that he or she will be polite back, and if im rude, they could just arrest me. i totally understand that you have to respond when a business owner calls though, because of the liability thing.
                          Yeah, OK. Im sure the officer who was enforcing a local ordinance or law called you guys A-holes from the get-go and IM sure he told you to go smoke dope.
                          NOT, troll this isn't the place to try to act tough...
                          Next question
                          I got nothing for now

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                          • #14
                            They are probably just frustrated with dealing with repeat offenders who show them zero respect, and probably just get fed up with it.

                            You might very well be a well-mannered young person who just enjoys riding a bike or skateboard, but there are too many kids out there like these that give the rest of you bad names:

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmflo...eature=related
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeQXRjocPTE
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEtrYAnvB_4
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj7ny6BFRKA
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsKf6CiYfxo
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6AYVn2yw4
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NNIN...eature=related

                            I could go on and on.

                            The one thing that all the vidoes have in common, besides officers "harassing" skateboarders, is skaters who have no respect for the law or private property and in most of the cases, who go out of their way to start a confrontation.

                            Its not a big deal. If a cop comes up and bugs you for skating, just apologize and move on to somewhere else. Its not worth getting arrested for.
                            Sheriff: We just take turns being the sheriff. It's real easy. You just hang out here, eat some pie, and get drunk.
                            Peter Griffin: Wait. Hold on a second. "Pie," "drunk," "the?" You got yourself a sheriff!

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                            • #15
                              bmx...ER

                              Originally posted by thisisastickup View Post
                              i ride a bmx bike, as in doing tricks and things on it. i ride in downtown chicago alot, and occaisonally get stopped by the police, and instead of being nice, they're complete *******s. they swear, yell at us, call us delinquents and things like that. what im wondering is if you guys really see it as a huge deal that were doing the things we do, or if we seem like an easy target to vent your day's frustration?

                              also, i was at a skatepark where bikes arent allowed, and ive only been kicked out of there once, and when i did, the officer came in the park, told all of us *******s to leave now or hed arrest us all, and then when two other cars pulled up, and we were about to leave, they started doing donuts and burnouts in the parking lot, infront of about 70 people that were at the park. could they get in serious trouble for being this irresponsible?

                              another question. i recently got a pair of plastic pegs for my bike, and if you stopped me grinding a ledge and would have other wise cited me for vandalism, would the plastic barends, plastic pegs, and rubber tires sway your opinion as to whether i was causing damage? i ask because having pegs made of plastic means the only metal to touch the ledge would be pedals, and thats pretty rare unless you fall right.

                              Most cops would just be annoyed that they had to respond to a call involving cases like yours when there are other things of importance to deal with. As for "hating" skaters or BMX tricksters I don't hate you or anyone. I am human though and I do get and show much frustration when I have to deal with inconsiderate people.
                              "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. The MARINES don't have that problem." ....Ronald Reagan

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