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  • #31
    Originally posted by Bing_Oh View Post

    Yes, some people change. And, then again, a great many don't. After dealing with many "regular customers" (more than a few of whom use the "I've changed!" line as a mantra, usually shortly before we find their substance of choice in a pocket), LEO's tend to hold by a couple of simple rules...actions speak louder than words and talk is cheap.

    I'm not doubting your sincerity, but you have to realize that LE agencies as a rule put more stock in past actions than the words of someone they don't know.

    As for times changing, there are some things I agree need to change...and others that don't. I'm much more liberal in my beliefs regarding appearance standards than some other LEO's, for example, but base hiring standards are not something I believe should be "re-evaluated" so we can have access to a larger candidate pool. Certain behaviors should not be overlooked when hiring for a job that is supposed to be populated by morally-upright, honest, trustworthy individuals.
    Copy that. I’m not in a rush to wear a badge.

    If a department is able to see past all the dumb things I’ve done and more importantly see the person I am today and then take a chance on me, great.

    If not, I’m going long on this goal of mine. I am not giving up.

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    • #32
      I do not post much any longer, but after your first post, in which you state you were rejected by LAPD, you go one to state you are applying to CPD, without ever telling us how you cleared up your poor record. You are correct, we are grizzled old-timers with plenty of time on the job. This means we have pretty much seen it all and know that your chances of being hired are extremely small.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Rober0193 View Post

        Copy that. I’m not in a rush to wear a badge.

        If a department is able to see past all the dumb things I’ve done and more importantly see the person I am today and then take a chance on me, great.

        If not, I’m going long on this goal of mine. I am not giving up.
        It’s not what you believe, it’s what is reality. You’re too much of a risk, too immature, and show no regard to the Law.

        Thankfully, all your posts here are discoverable and will be reviewed by a BI.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Dinosaur32 View Post
          I do not post much any longer, but after your first post, in which you state you were rejected by LAPD, you go one to state you are applying to CPD, without ever telling us how you cleared up your poor record. You are correct, we are grizzled old-timers with plenty of time on the job. This means we have pretty much seen it all and know that your chances of being hired are extremely small.
          My last ticket/drug consumption/collision/etc was at LEAST 3 years ago. Been whistle clean ever since.

          In other words, I’ve managed to put time between the person that got denied by LAPD and the person accepting that extremely small possibility of becoming a LEO today.

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          • NolaT
            NolaT commented
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            Three years is Yesterday

          • Rober0193
            Rober0193 commented
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            This post has confirmed that for me. Looking forward to making it 5-10 years if need be.

          • NolaT
            NolaT commented
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            That’s possibly Do-able, stay straight and keep clean

          • Rober0193
            Rober0193 commented
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            Absolutely. Thank you!

        • #35
          Originally posted by Rober0193 View Post

          Not so irrelevant when I’m applying for a state job and not a federal one. That isn’t meant to minimize or justify my actions in anyway.

          “Driving DUI drugs countless times” so much conviction in that statement it’s hard to respect. I was HONEST on my application. I drove under the influence one time. Never again.

          Heck with that logic there’s no telling how many times you sped on the job without reason or how many times you disrespected citizens or even went beyond that in illegal activity. Very easy to fall down that slippery slope when you let emotions take place over logic.

          Regardless, you’ve come off as the hard rear end I expected to encounter and if your goal was to dissuade me or make me think I have any less of a shot than I did before, you have failed.

          There’s obviously work to be done and only time will demonstrate I have carried it out.

          Out of sheer respect and for the sake of not turning this into a back and forth discussion I’m going to thank you for your input and keep working on myself.

          This just got fun. Here’s to never quitting and dream chasing.

          Thanks again!!

          Saved.

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          • #36
            Originally posted by Rober0193 View Post

            My last ticket/drug consumption/collision/etc was at LEAST 3 years ago. Been whistle clean ever since.

            In other words, I’ve managed to put time between the person that got denied by LAPD and the person accepting that extremely small possibility of becoming a LEO today.
            Saved.

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            • #37
              Originally posted by Rober0193 View Post

              I’m 100% with you on this. The times are changing. Most people on this forum seem to be old timers. People who come from the zero-drug tolerance policy days. I respect that.

              I’m on my phone at the moment and can’t quickly recall who referred to me as a criminal for smoking marijuana haha. I would have never smoked marijuana if it was illegal.

              When I was smoking weed I used to think people never changed. They were who they were and that was it. I mean, how could a person go from liking this to that? But that suddenly changed when my mind expanded and I took interests in other things.

              I can’t even remember the exact date I stopped smoking because I never made a point to stop. I just didn’t care for it.

              My point is.. people along with the times.. change.
              Saved.

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              • #38
                Originally posted by CCCSD View Post

                It’s not what you believe, it’s what is reality. You’re too much of a risk, too immature, and show no regard to the Law.

                Thankfully, all your posts here are discoverable and will be reviewed by a BI.
                Not worried about that in the slightest.

                There’s nothing on this forum post that I haven’t included and explained in detail on my packet.

                In fact, it’s possible I might have actually exaggerated the amount of infractions I’ve had.

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                • #39
                  Originally posted by Rober0193 View Post

                  Not worried about that in the slightest.

                  There’s nothing on this forum post that I haven’t included and explained in detail on my packet.

                  In fact, it’s possible I might have actually exaggerated the amount of infractions I’ve had.
                  So you knowingly lied.

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                  • #40
                    Originally posted by CCCSD View Post

                    So you knowingly lied.
                    On my packet? Absolutely not.

                    I was meticulous and methodical on my approach.

                    On this forum post? I definitely took a casual approach at conveying who I am as a person/candidate simply for the sake of the dose of realism that I received and expected.

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                    • #41
                      Originally posted by Rober0193 View Post

                      Those Harley’s DO look nice haha
                      You failed to mention your attraction to Harley-Davidsons.

                      If you tell the CHP that you're gay, that will improve your chances of getting hired over guys like us.

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                      • #42
                        Originally posted by Rober0193 View Post

                        Not so irrelevant when I’m applying for a state job and not a federal one.
                        Crimes are crimes. Federal drug crimes absolutely can prevent you from getting hired by state, county, or city law enforcement agencies.

                        It's also a federal firearms felony for marijuana criminals to possess firearms at all. So there's virtually zero chance that any agency is going to issue you any firearms or hire you to carry firearms.

                        I drove under the influence...
                        Yes, I know. That's why I posted it.

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                        • #43
                          So guys, I gotta ask:

                          A 19 year old pot-head on a 170 mph motorcycle that does 85 mph in first gear, what do you suppose chances are that some/all of his 8 "tickets" were actually criminal summons?

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                          • #44
                            I’m SURE there’s more to his story…

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                            • #45
                              I came on here for an opinion/information on my odds of becoming a LEO, which I received and I’m thankful for.

                              I don’t know how my sexual orientation came about in this conversation (joking manner or not) but it’s clear the goal is no longer to respond to the question at hand.

                              peace!

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