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  • OTVFD18
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    Thank you all, especially Meat_Hands, for your responses. I am looking into LP jobs at the local malls (approx. 45 mins from home). These malls have many of the stores recommended by everyone. I like the sound of Best Buy but am willing to work anywhere that will hire me seeing as I have no previous experience. I like to believe I am a hard worker and willing to learn. Hopefully, these companies will see that and not be afraid of my lack of experience.

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  • Meat_Hands
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    I've worked in Loss Prevention since 02 and just getting ready to start my Law Enforcement Carreer. I agree with everyone on the fact that Uniformed Security is mostly maintaining a presence in the area while plain clothes loss prevention actually make an impact on the stores profit, shrink and safety.

    When I first started out I was uniformed security for six months and hated it! I then promoted to plain clothes and loved the job. You learn a TON of different things working plain clothes. You learn how much force to apply during an altercation, how to make quick decisions on the fly (GOOD decisions based on business and safety), team work, how to read bodylanguage (more of a skill that someone has before going in, but honing that skill more), being aware of your surroundings, how to approach people and how to maintain a professional yet commanding presence, all of these are really good traits and skills to have before going into LE.

    Its harder to find a plain clothes loss prevention job if you have no experience, but it can be done. When I was a manager (last year) I would have gladly taken an individual that shows a strong drive to succeed and make an impact even if he was only going to be with me for a few months and no experience as opposed to an individual who wanted long lasting stable job but lacked the drive. If your really interested in trying for LP for a couple months, just get out there and apply.

    I'm not sure exactly what retailers are in your area, but I have (and voich for these companies) worked for Sears, Target and Gottchalks. They are all strong Loss Prevention focus companies that have very good training and systems to give you the experience you want. Also try, Home Depot, Winco, Lowes, Kohls, JC Penny, Macy's and the likes. You would be supprised at how many food stores also have their own LP.

    If you need help just send me a PM and I can give you some pointers on what exactly their looking for when interviewing candidates.

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  • Landric
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    I too work LP at Best Buy for about a year. It is not a bad place to work (provided you get the right store), but the job is self is more obvious presence than trying to catch shoplifters. Best Buy's theory is that they would rather keep people from trying to shoplift than catch them once they do. You also spend a lot of time doing stuff that is not really LP related since you are the first person people see when they come in the door and the last they see when they leave.

    On the up side, the pay wasn't bad for retail, the people there were pretty fun to work with (although I was a lot older than most of them), and they will hire people seasonally for LP. Oh, and the discount was excellent.

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  • KSLawman
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    I'll echo what some of the others have said. I worked LP for five years before I was a cop and it was a fantastic experience.

    What sets LP apart from uniformed security guard work is that in LP you're actually required to get something done. LP people tend to be go getters and are good at self initiated activity, both good police attributes.

    I learned more about interview techniques, self defense, court testimony and report writting working in LP than I ever did in the police academy.

    When I was in LP I got heavy into working with police catching people who were buying (or stealing) components to make methamphetamine. I worked with patrol, dope detectives and the DA's office and together we made alot of really good cases. When I was in the academy and they taught us about meth, all of the cases that they profiled were ones I had worked on in LP including a lot of CCTV video I shot, that they used to show the class how the cooks get 'shop' for the components. That was kinda cool.

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  • DarksideNV
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    I did Loss Prevention for 5 years prior to getting hired. It was great experience in dealing with all types of people, from first time 12 year old theives to hardened 3 strike parolees. You learn alot about fraud if you get into the internal theft side of LP. Like previously stated, you also learn about use of force and report writing skills.

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  • OTVFD18
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    Thanks for the help everyone. I am leaning towards an LP job right now but I need to find something first.

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  • SgtScott31
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    Adam...I worked security at BestBuy for about a month (around xmas before LE work). They are more of a uniformed presence, just in yellow shirts rather than a goofy uniform w/a badge. I caught one of their employees discounting CD's at the register and they really didn't know how to deal with it. It was pretty sad, which is why I left. Hopefully it has improved.

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    I worked security for three years before joining the ranks. Just make sure you get with a company that is professional. most are good, there are a few out there that give the rest a bad name and lead to a "wannabe" stereotype

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  • AdamCrist85
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    *Not a cop- but have worked both jobs*

    I would say it would depend on where you were doing these jobs. I just graduated from college last May and began working LP at a Best Buy while I was getting back into shape and it was horrible. It was boring and you had to deal with some really bad retail managers. I've learned a lot more from my security job than I ever thought I would have. I'm now going through the process for two different agencies and believe that while not the greatest job in the world (far from it), the hospital security job I'm currently working has at least helped me get a better understanding of how to deal with different people and an idea of what LE is really like, as we interact daily with the local LEO's. Just fyi, it's night shift at a large-community hospital in a not-so-great part of town with a psychiatric wing.

    That being said, here are the definite upsides to working (at least hospital) security...

    1.) You get to know the local LEO's: We have a very good working relationship with the local pd's since they are coming in almost every night with Emergency Psych Evals or investigating other cases. You can kind of get a sense of some of the everyday stuff they have to do from talking to them. Most of them will stand around and BS with you for a few minutes about whatever you want to talk about if they arent loaded down with calls. They can also give you some good advice on local pd's, areas and dept's to avoid, and whatnot.

    2.) You get to know the local ER staff: always good to be on a first name basis with the local Medical staff, enough said I think...

    3.) You learn how to deal with potentially escalating situations without using violence: In over 6 months, I've dealt with a number of situations that really could've gotten violent but were diverted by just talking it out with the parties. This is probably the most important thing I've learned. Along with that, you just become a little more used to confronting people.

    4.) You get experience dealing with people with psychiatric issues: Something I probably would've never dealt with in LP.

    5.) You get experience dealing with drunks, drug addicts and people coming off of those substances: I cant tell you how many people we've had to deal with that were either going through withdrawl or that were high on PCP that I wouldnt have had the first clue about if I was working LP.

    That's basically about it, I'd definately say to stay away from most LP positions and even some security positions (like malls and whatnot). I'd definately look into hospital security if I was you. Some places might hire you for the summer and then let you go on call/seasonal so you can still work when you come back from school. Just thought I'd share...
    Last edited by AdamCrist85; 01-02-2008, 06:31 AM.

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  • pulicords
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    Originally posted by SgtScott31 View Post
    I did loss prevention for 3+ years and I believe it is a better learning experience over uniformed security. We worked shoplifting and internal theft cases, testified in court, and learned some good interview techniques with theft suspects. The pinhole cameras were fun too.

    Normally uniformed security is strictly there as a deterrent and training is usually sub-standard, at least in my area.
    +1!!! Working loss prevention also teaches the potential officer about use of reasonable force to make arrests, taking responsibility for one's own safety and using common sense under high stress situations. It can be a great learning experience.

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  • OTVFD18
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    SgtScott,
    I share the same feelings. I would much rather gain experience in LP over uniformed security. However, it is hard to find companies willing to hire a 20 year old for the summer/holiday season or knowing that I will be leaving shortly to take a job as a LEO. Even 3 years of college and a current GPA of 3.95 doesn't help!

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  • SgtScott31
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    I did loss prevention for 3+ years and I believe it is a better learning experience over uniformed security. We worked shoplifting and internal theft cases, testified in court, and learned some good interview techniques with theft suspects. The pinhole cameras were fun too.

    Normally uniformed security is strictly there as a deterrent and training is usually sub-standard, at least in my area.

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  • OTVFD18
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    Starting to look around again. Anyone have any new ideas? No theme parks or tourist attractions within driving distance.

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  • OTVFD18
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    Originally posted by Ms. Enforcer View Post
    OTV what part of NY are you from? They are always hiring for LP and security in the city.
    Upstate, not as many LP jobs up here. Thanks though.

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  • LPSS
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    Sorry, thought this was General Law Enforcement topics. OTVFD18, check your PMs.
    Last edited by LPSS; 06-12-2007, 01:34 PM. Reason: Removed post.

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