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  • Police in Native reservations and in different countries?

    Has anybody worked with tribal police before?
    • How are they as cops?
    • do they ever work with cops that are outside of the Reservation?
    • training exercises together?
    • do they have to meet the same state license requirements even though their reservations are like their own country?
    • What happens if i were to get pulled over and commit a felony, would i be thrown in jain inside the reservation or would they call state police and take me out of their jurisdiction.
    Do cops from different countries ever come to the United States and learn alittle bit more from us? I remember when other countries would send a solider of theirs to our Marine Corps DI school to learn how to instruct recruits then go back to their country and implement what they learn. Is there something similar in terms of law enforcement?

  • #2
    I deal with them all the time. They are duly sworn LE just like everywhere else. Many, if not most, locations are also state commissioned so they have jurisdiction over everyone, native or otherwise.
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    • #3
      I moved to a new city back in '88, and before I got onto the department I eventually retired from, I became a security guard for a little income. While at the security academy where I was going to receive my commissioned security officer training from, there were Indian police training there. Back then, as far as I knew, they were officers, but I thought it was weird that they didn't exclusively receive their training from the other local departments of the area. I would bump into them over my career, but no real dealings where I could pick their brain so I never found out of they are Federal authority, State authority or both. I would run into all officers of the area and then some at the jail while booking prisoners, but I don't ever remember seeing any Indian officers.

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      • #4
        I believe the FBI investigates crimes on Indian reservations.

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        • Bing_Oh
          Bing_Oh commented
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          But the agent will be paired up with a Reservation Police Officer who will start out resenting him but eventually grudgingly accept him because of his Native American roots as they solve the crime together. And the agent will be Val Kilmer.

        • Kraut0783
          Kraut0783 commented
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          FBI investigate felony crimes on Indian reservations. Misdemeanors are still handled by the reservation police, as well as providing uniform assistance to the bureau. The reservation police will still be the first responder to calls.

      • #5
        What happens if i were to get pulled over and commit a felony, would i be thrown in jain inside the reservation or would they call state police and take me out of their jurisdiction
        Probably not a good idea to commit a felony when you get pulled over but if it were to happen on the rez, you would go to rez jail and appear before a rez judge.

        Calling the state police or county sheriff to enter the reservation would be akin to Kim Jong Un calling the South Koreans to cross the DMZ.

        The rez police I once worked with were mostly non-tribal members who didn't exactly plan a career in tribal policing but that's where they ended up. The tribal regulations I've seen weren't exactly in line with existing law (ex: if someone shoots a bald eagle, they pay a fine of $100 and get to keep the carcass).

        The casino kept the pd flush in new vehicles and all the latest gear and gizmos but still paid the officers mall cop wages. And heaven forbid if they arrest one of the cousins of the tribal council chairman. I always felt sorry for them.
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        • #6
          FBI does have jurisdiction over felony crimes, as do BIA special agents. Reservations under BIA law enforcement have federal officers and Tribal run locations have tribal officers.

          As a federal officer, I enforce tribal codes and primarily Title 25 CFR offenses. I can charge non-tribals federally but it’s not a normal occurrence. Usually they get turned over to state/local authorities.
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          • #7
            With regards to what has been posted so far, I agree with most of it. What you should know is tribal policing is complicated in the United States.

            I am located in Minnesota. We have 9 Tribal agencies that are licensed by the Minnesota POST Board. The number of officers at each agency precedes the organizational name.


            Tribal Police Departments:

            3 1854 Treaty Authority

            4 Mdewakanton Conservation Enforcement Authority

            6 Upper Sioux

            9 Lower Sioux

            10 Prairie Island

            19 Fond du Lac

            22 Mille Lacs

            25 White Earth

            29 Leech Lake

            All tribal lands in Minnesota are Public Law 280, except for Red Lake, which is still considered a “closed” reservation. (In a closed reservation, all land is held in common by the tribe and there is no private property.)

            In 1953 Congress enacted Public Law 280, in part because of the absence of adequate tribal institutions for law enforcement. Public Law 280 applies to six states, including Minnesota. It required the state to assume criminal jurisdiction over all Indian reservations within the state with the exception of Red Lake and Bois Forte. That jurisdiction does not extend, however, to statutes the courts classify as “civil-regulatory” rather than “criminal-prohibitory” under Public Law 280.

            According to Minnesota Statute 626.90, the Tribal Police Department’s jurisdiction is tied in part to the boundaries of the reservation as defined by the Treaty of February 22, 1855

            The Red Lake and Bois Forte Bands have tribal law enforcement agencies that are funded and administered by the federal Bureau of Indian Affairs. The Mille Lacs Band of Chippewa and the Lower Sioux Indian Community have concurrent jurisdiction with the Mille Lacs and Redwood county sheriff's departments respectively.

            In the past, a tribal police department could not enforce state law on tribal lands unless it first signed a cooperative agreement with the local county sheriff’s office.

            Like I wrote, tribal policing is complicated in Minnesota and other places, too.
            Last edited by Jim1648; 02-13-2021, 11:14 AM.

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