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    I haven't been on this site for a while so my profile is out of date and I am working on updating that so please be patient. In my last post I was working for a security company and I am now in the us army in training as a 94 M (airborne radar repair specialist) and I am trying to reclass early to be an mp. Would anyone have any advice about how to successfully reclass? Also my understanding is that mps are only authorized to carry one can of OC, one m9, and one set of handcuffs. To me this is way to little gear and I am not at all a fan of the m9 does anyone know what the regs say and what the punishment would be if I carried an XD 40 cal sidearm and a decent gear on a black hawk belt? After I do my five year contract in the army I would like to become a civilian cop in a city that has a decent SWAT team that gets lots of calls (ie LA, Phoenix, Las Vegas, New York, Tampa, KCK). Also I have heard mixed stories about mps some say that being an mp looks good on a pd application and others say that mps are too gung-ho. Any thoughts? Also how much similarity is there between pd patrol or swat work and military work?

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    Once you get to your permanent duty station, ask the retention NCO. Don't know how things work now, but when I was in, you're reenlistment window would have to be open for you to option for reclass. As far as MP gear, you're probably not going to be able to carry anything other than US Army issued. M9 is gonna be your Beretta 9mm standard issue US Army pistol, don't plan on carrying anything other than that. Same things gonna go for most PD's on the civilian side. Anything in addition to issued gear, has to be approved by the Chief at my PD. Also can't carry other than issued sidearm at my PD.

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    • #3
      You carry what they issue you. Article 86 specifically states that you will be in your appointed place of duty at the appointed time in the appointed uniform, thus you could be charged with at least that and I'm sure they could come up with a few more. Can't speak for the Army, but getting re-classified to a "lower" MOS in the Corps is not possible unless you know someone who can work some miracles. If it does happen don't get too excited about being a crime fighting one man tactical squad street cleaner. Get used to standing around and guarding things. You may want to stick with your MOS just to get some experience and training that you will not get anywhere else (your MOS does not matter when you get out.)

      You may also want to start focusing on learning all you can and doing the best job you can as opposed to trying to figure out how to break the rules from square one. A succesful tour as a pogue will win you much more credibility than an admin sep or a big chicken dinner for not following the rules as a gate nazi.

      This post was not intended to flame, merely offer what I believe is some good advice.
      "there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter." Ernest Hemingway

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      • #4
        Originally posted by glad2cuffu View Post
        Would anyone have any advice about how to successfully reclass?
        Get to your first unit and ask your Squad Leader to run it up the chain for you. The Army will not allow you to do it while you are in initial training...... I am not sure what the regs for reclass are now days but a while back you had to be done with your initial assignment to do that.....

        You do relalize that MPs are in high demand in Irag/Afganistan.....and you won't be doing a lot of LE work.....you will be running convoy security, MOUT operations, and POW Ops..... Plus, it should be noted that a lot of instillations are going to Civilan Police Officers and that appears to be the way things are going to go.......

        Originally posted by glad2cuffu View Post
        regs say and what the punishment would be if I carried an XD 40 cal sidearm and a decent gear on a black hawk belt?
        If you are caught using something unauthorized, you will be in deep doo-doo.....especially a weapon...... Gear, you might be able to get away with as some places allow you to purchase your own stuff. When I was in, we were allowed to go buy stuff at one post but had to wear/use military stuff when I was at another one.....save your money and use their stuff......

        And no, you can't go out and buy a tazer....

        Originally posted by glad2cuffu View Post
        Also I have heard mixed stories about mps some say that being an mp looks good on a pd application and others say that mps are too gung-ho. Any thoughts?
        Any military experience will help you get on the job as long as you have a good discharge. I have worked with folks that were in supply, commo, mechanics, pilots, grunts, F/A, etc......
        Last edited by Bearcat357; 05-20-2007, 08:56 PM.

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        • #5
          thanks I haven't read what you have written but I am replying just so I can get notification of replies. Can I pick any of your brains about leo life?

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          • #6
            Just an FYI, very few, if any MP's, are doing law enforcement work these days. They're doing their primary war time duties, which is convoy escort, and combat zone installation guarding. The vast majority of state side law enforcement duties have been turned over to DOD police.

            If you still want to reclass, you need to talk to the retention NCO at your duty station. Odds are, you wont be allowed to reclass without some very hefty commitments on your part. Even then, you may have to serve most of your initial enlistement before the Army decides you're eligible to reclass.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by SRT936 View Post
              DOD police.
              FYI....there is no such thing as DOD Police..... It's either DOA, DON, or DOAF Police......

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              • #8
                Originally posted by glad2cuffu View Post
                I haven't been on this site for a while so my profile is out of date and I am working on updating that so please be patient. In my last post I was working for a security company and I am now in the us army in training as a 94 M (airborne radar repair specialist) and I am trying to reclass early to be an mp. Would anyone have any advice about how to successfully reclass? Also my understanding is that mps are only authorized to carry one can of OC, one m9, and one set of handcuffs. To me this is way to little gear and I am not at all a fan of the m9 does anyone know what the regs say and what the punishment would be if I carried an XD 40 cal sidearm and a decent gear on a black hawk belt? After I do my five year contract in the army I would like to become a civilian cop in a city that has a decent SWAT team that gets lots of calls (ie LA, Phoenix, Las Vegas, New York, Tampa, KCK). Also I have heard mixed stories about mps some say that being an mp looks good on a pd application and others say that mps are too gung-ho. Any thoughts? Also how much similarity is there between pd patrol or swat work and military work?

                As a former MP (31B) and MPI (31BV5), don't count on garrison work. That is now far and few between and you will only get it if you have been there a while. You will be going to either sand box. As far as carrying anything else but your issued Berretta M9, FORGET IT!! Also, both of my assignments would not allow you to use any other gear except for what was issued. Also, be prepared to be babysat while on duty. You will have to ask to go code, ask for a break, and many more restrictions that I can't talk about in public that would put the MP's on duty at risk. It would make a civilian cop sick to know.

                As far as MP on your military history, you are right, it can be good and bad. The good is you have military experience and experience as a law enforcement officer. The only time it can hurt you any (haven't seen it myself, only heard about it) is that some agencies like the guy who has no LEO experience so they can train them they way they want them and not have to deal with any "bad" habits. I would keep your MOS and use that for experience. It will do you just as good, if not better.
                "In God we trust, all others we run NCIC"

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                • #9
                  Sounds like the Army is sinking a lot of bucks in your training to be a radar repairman. I can't speak for them (Army), but the Navy will not let someone change jobs until a period of time has passed, usually the first enlistment. Number one, the investment in your training must be recovered. Number two, the new skill (MP) must be of a higher priority to fill vacancies.
                  "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

                  Thomas Jefferson

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