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    I have a couple scenarios to ask about. I am not sure if you guys answer this or not but it would be highly appreciative if I could get an idea on these.

    1. An officer isn't responding to dispatch, he is ok just ready to retire and isn't wanting to do any work, therefore dispatch calls you out of your jurisdiction to answer these calls. Would you respond to the calls?

    2. Off duty and witnessing a drug transaction. Call 911?

    3. If you show up to an assault call and everyone there is blaming the assault on one individual. What is the procedure for this? or What would you do?

    Thanks.....

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    Originally posted by bugaboozie
    I have a couple scenarios to ask about. I am not sure if you guys answer this or not but it would be highly appreciative if I could get an idea on these.

    1. An officer isn't responding to dispatch, he is ok just ready to retire and isn't wanting to do any work, therefore dispatch calls you out of your jurisdiction to answer these calls. Would you respond to the calls?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by bugaboozie
      I have a couple scenarios to ask about. I am not sure if you guys answer this or not but it would be highly appreciative if I could get an idea on these.

      1. An officer isn't responding to dispatch, he is ok just ready to retire and isn't wanting to do any work, therefore dispatch calls you out of your jurisdiction to answer these calls. Would you respond to the calls?

      2. Off duty and witnessing a drug transaction. Call 911?

      3. If you show up to an assault call and everyone there is blaming the assault on one individual. What is the procedure for this? or What would you do?

      Thanks.....
      My 2 cents...

      1. Do you have the same police powers outside your jurisdiction? Are you covered if you get hurt taking calls outside your jurisiction? If not then no way. Id speak with my supervisor before doing anything. Id for sure follow up with the turd who is dodging the calls. I have no place in my heart for those that dodge calls and jump calls.

      2. A phone call wouldnt hurt. Any further action would depend on the given circumstances.

      3. Find the victim. Medical treatment? Detain the perp if they are on scene. Investigate the factors involved. What does the victim want done? Do they want to press charges? Is it a domestic? (mandatory arrest). Take satements of those who witnessed the event. If the perp is there and probable cause for arrest is evident..hook'em up. If he is not on scene file for an arrest warrant.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by bugaboozie
        I have a couple scenarios to ask about. I am not sure if you guys answer this or not but it would be highly appreciative if I could get an idea on these.

        1. An officer isn't responding to dispatch, he is ok just ready to retire and isn't wanting to do any work, therefore dispatch calls you out of your jurisdiction to answer these calls. Would you respond to the calls?
        I would respond to any call I was given without question. Afterward, I may have a few choice words for the guy sluffing his calls, but the dispatcher won't hear about it.

        2. Off duty and witnessing a drug transaction. Call 911?
        No. No way the response will get there in time. Just take notes, plates, descriptions and pass it along to the dope guys the next day.

        3. If you show up to an assault call and everyone there is blaming the assault on one individual. What is the procedure for this? or What would you do?
        If by assault you mean a swing and a miss, I would take a report and pass it along to detectives, unles I felt the activity was going to continue or escalate, in which case I might remove the suspect. The suspect leaves the scene one way or another, either on his own acord or with me.

        A battery might be a felony, depaending on the injury and in that case, depending on all of the other evidence and credence of all witnesses, I may hook the suspect or file a report. Lots of variables here.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by bugaboozie
          I have a couple scenarios to ask about. I am not sure if you guys answer this or not but it would be highly appreciative if I could get an idea on these.

          1. An officer isn't responding to dispatch, he is ok just ready to retire and isn't wanting to do any work, therefore dispatch calls you out of your jurisdiction to answer these calls. Would you respond to the calls?

          I would respond and deal with that officer later. No need to make the person asking for help wait even longer by having a ****ing contest with dispatch.

          2. Off duty and witnessing a drug transaction. Call 911?

          Depends.....am I watching 20 pounds of meth being loaded into a car or am I watching someone buying a joint. The first one I would call in and write down info...the second one not so much.

          3. If you show up to an assault call and everyone there is blaming the assault on one individual. What is the procedure for this? or What would you do?
          .
          I go by what evidence I have at the seen, witness statements, suspect/victim statements, what type of crime actually occurred (simple battery=misd, battery with great bodily injury=felony, DV misd or felony and mandatory arrest) and what the victim wants.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bugaboozie
            1. An officer isn't responding to dispatch, he is ok just ready to retire and isn't wanting to do any work, therefore dispatch calls you out of your jurisdiction to answer these calls. Would you respond to the calls?
            I would respond to the calls given me by dispatch. I may ask if the area squad is tied up on something, but would still take the job assigned. After the fact, that officer and I are going to have a very direct heart to heart about it.

            2. Off duty and witnessing a drug transaction. Call 911?
            As was said above, it depends on a variety of factors. A simple joint being sold is probably not worth anybodies time right now. I would keep note of it and try to deal with it when I get back on duty. If its something a little sexier, I would skip 911 and call the narco guys direct.

            3. If you show up to an assault call and everyone there is blaming the assault on one individual. What is the procedure for this? or What would you do?
            There's a lot that goes into this deal. First off, we'd detain the suspect. Check on the victim's medical status, then get the victims story. If the victim wants to pursue the matter, we'd get a written statement and photograph any visible injuries. Line up the witnesses and get there version of events. If everything jives, they too would be asked to give written statements. Perp would be taken to jail, given an opportunity to make a statement of his own then lodged to see the judge. This is all assuming of course that everybodies stories match up and make sense. In a great number of these cases the "victim" actually turns out to have started the fight and then cries foul when they lose.
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            • #7
              Thanks for the answers. I have another question here. Now what if one of the individuals being interviewed about the assault is upset because you are interviewing the other person first and not them ( I know sounds stupid) Is this simply something you explain the circumstances of maybe the first interviewee knows more. Or just pretty much say hey if you don't like it then my station's address is.....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bugaboozie
                I have a couple scenarios to ask about. I am not sure if you guys answer this or not but it would be highly appreciative if I could get an idea on these.

                1. An officer isn't responding to dispatch, he is ok just ready to retire and isn't wanting to do any work, therefore dispatch calls you out of your jurisdiction to answer these calls. Would you respond to the calls?

                2. Off duty and witnessing a drug transaction. Call 911?

                3. If you show up to an assault call and everyone there is blaming the assault on one individual. What is the procedure for this? or What would you do?

                Thanks.....
                1 The sgt would phone him on the cell. Tell him to take the call. If it's a one time thing (sick or something) I would take the call. If not, he would have to take it. In my dept, you cannot just put off a call. Maybe it's because officers know that other officers will not take that kind of crap, and therefore dont act childish.

                2 When Im off duty, Im off duty. No questions asked. I would be a good witness, take notes, phone dispatch. There is no way Im stepping up in my civilian clothes, no vest, and taking the chance on getting hurt for any amount of CDS. The perp will prob get a slap on the wrist anyway.

                3. In MD if its a simple assault, I would advise those involved that they have to go before the commissioner and file for a warrant or judicial summons. Maryland does not allow an arrest for a misdemeanor that did not occur in the officers presence. If it's an aggravated assault, I would detain the perp, interview witnesses, and take the appropriate action.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bugaboozie
                  I have a couple scenarios to ask about. I am not sure if you guys answer this or not but it would be highly appreciative if I could get an idea on these.

                  1. An officer isn't responding to dispatch, he is ok just ready to retire and isn't wanting to do any work, therefore dispatch calls you out of your jurisdiction to answer these calls. Would you respond to the calls?

                  2. Off duty and witnessing a drug transaction. Call 911?

                  3. If you show up to an assault call and everyone there is blaming the assault on one individual. What is the procedure for this? or What would you do?

                  Thanks.....
                  1: Don't deal with this. Were all assigned cases/projects/task forces ect.., theres no hiding from the morning meetings!

                  2: Head on over and ask if I can get some ... j/k.. if its small, probably just record plate, if its large, will call it in and get information.

                  3: Assults are handled on a local level, and thats exactly who I would call in. If I did decide to investigate it, a previous officer has already mentioned some of the investigative tools that we would use.

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                  • #10
                    well it all depends, your department has its own SOP's (standard precedures) which will cover almost EVERY Situation. Just depends on your department
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bugaboozie
                      Thanks for the answers. I have another question here. Now what if one of the individuals being interviewed about the assault is upset because you are interviewing the other person first and not them ( I know sounds stupid) Is this simply something you explain the circumstances of maybe the first interviewee knows more. Or just pretty much say hey if you don't like it then my station's address is.....
                      Then it is just too bad for them. The Police will dictate how the investigation is done..nobody else. If they do not like it then yes..here the address of my Police station. There are reasons why things are done the way they are and if an explaination to the upset person is in need im sure they will get one. The only thing that I can think why they may be upset is because they are afraid they will not get to tell their side first. This is due to the fact that they want to defend their actions because they are the suspect. Just a guess.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 10-97UPD
                        Then it is just too bad for them. The Police will dictate how the investigation is done..nobody else. If they do not like it then yes..here the address of my Police station. There are reasons why things are done the way they are and if an explaination to the upset person is in need im sure they will get one. The only thing that I can think why they may be upset is because they are afraid they will not get to tell their side first. This is due to the fact that they want to defend their actions because they are the suspect. Just a guess.
                        I totally agree with what you said, but is this something that a LT,SGT and captain are wanting to hear in a scenario type interview?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bugaboozie
                          I totally agree with what you said, but is this something that a LT,SGT and captain are wanting to hear in a scenario type interview?
                          When were onscene, we are the ones handling the investigation. If a supv wants to take over, thats there choice, but I seriously doubt any supv is going to have a problem is the officer handling the investigation in a manner he deems fit.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bugaboozie
                            I totally agree with what you said, but is this something that a LT,SGT and captain are wanting to hear in a scenario type interview?
                            Could be..I cant answer that though. Take a stab at what you think is the right thing to do. The key to dealing with people that that get upset because they dont like your decision is to deal with them professionally. You need to learn how to tell people to "go pound salt" without actually telling them to "go pound salt"...get my drift? It is a way with words. You cant lose your cool. As long as you follow policy and procedure and can justify an acceptable reason why you did something you will be fine.
                            And the road becomes my bride.

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