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  • Spike strip

    Hello everyone!

    A small question here: does your department use spike strips to stop fleeing vehicles? I've only seen them in videogames (which obviously don't even pretend to be trying to be accurate) and in some rare chase video, like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymWGQtu2xag (01:27)

    Considering the perp just shot 5 people and was armed, I was really scared seeing the officer running so close to his vehicle to throw spikes... Or is it a generally accepted procedure?

    Where I am, police either blocks the road with big rigs (if there are any) or takes shots at the tires, but no spike strips, so I don't really have other examples of its usage.

    Thanks!

  • #2
    Laying spike strips is dangerous.................one must be very careful but they are safer than trying to shoot tires.

    Many if not most agencies in my area use them with few problems.......................There are some agencies that won't or don't use them.

    Blocking of roads is just not done in the US...............ESPECIALLY using private "big rigs"..................NOBODY would want that liability.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post

      Blocking of roads is just not done in the US...............ESPECIALLY using private "big rigs"..................NOBODY would want that liability.
      Totally understandable, the only reason it's in use here is that most of police policies were drafted in the age when no private property existed as such...

      Appreciate the reply!

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      • #4
        Not to stop criminals, but other countries like India use a type of spike strip to prevent wrong-way drivers. Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p53ziavFsro . So, even if your car is equipped with the best tires like michelin and bridgestone tires, you will be in trouble if you drive in the wrong direction.

        In Arizona, ADOT doesn't consider this method because of some good reasons-- https://www.abc15.com/news/region-ph...ers-in-arizona

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        • #5
          We don't use them here but we're also a smaller department.

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          • #6
            We use them, but it can be dangerous. A few years back, a fellow officer was struck by a fleeing vehicle as he attempted to use spike strips. He lived, but it ended his career.

            No police agency in the US would ever authorize shooting out tires. That sort of cowboy stuff ended years ago.

            As for big rigs, my state's laws prevent us from creating true roadblocks -- the vehicle has to be allowed a way out. That being said, I've heard of state troopers (my state's highway police) getting on their CB radios to truck drivers ahead of a pursuit and asking them to slow down, effectively creating a 'rolling roadblock'.

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            • #7
              We do not use them. Too many rural areas with a lot of intersecting roads make establishing a point to use them difficult.
              Beside, we are still allowed to PIT (when authorized by supervisor).

              I did once actually toss a landscape timber at the front wheel of a fleeing motorcycle from the side of the road as it whized by me. That was neat.
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              • #8
                I did once actually toss a landscape timber at the front wheel of a fleeing motorcycle from the side of the road as it whized by me. That was neat.
                By policy, I can't even use a spike strip on a motorcycle. I can't even imagine the levels of **** I'd be in if I threw a chunk of lumber in front of one.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by orangebottle View Post
                  No police agency in the US would ever authorize shooting out tires. That sort of cowboy stuff ended years ago.
                  Oh, it's still done a few places.
                  I yell "PIKACHU" before I tase someone.

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                  • westside popo
                    westside popo commented
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                    One department I worked at had it in their SOP. But it was VERY restrictive on when, where, how and for what circumstances it could be used. Don't know if they still have it.
                    Last edited by westside popo; 09-20-2018, 09:28 PM.

                • #10
                  Originally posted by orangebottle View Post

                  By policy, I can't even use a spike strip on a motorcycle. I can't even imagine the levels of **** I'd be in if I threw a chunk of lumber in front of one.
                  Me too, probably, but I missed. The driver ended wrecking out a few minutes later.
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                  • #11
                    Wow, didn't expect this thread to come to life again. Thanks for the replies! The most unexpected info was from Rudy that some American departments still permit to shoot the tires. I sincerely thought our country is the last place where it's still done.

                    Oh yes, and the timber-interdiction technique too, that one I never even heard about

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Rudy8116 View Post
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                      Oh, it's still done a few places.
                      I recall an incident from our state about 10-15 years ago where someone stole a semi and numerous attempts to stop it were unsuccessful. They ultimately did so by firing a shotgun with slugs straight into the radiator. Someone knew enough about big rigs to know that, when the truck sensed the loss of coolant it would automatically shut down the engine.

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                      • #13
                        They are used but a lot of police agencies will deem it a dangerous position to be in. According to a FBI report about 2 officers are killed each year attempting to place down a strip.

                        https://leb.fbi.gov/bulletin-highlig...f-spike-strips

                        This year alone an officer in my area was struck and killed while deploying spikes.
                        An 8-year veteran with the Kent Police Department died Sunday morning while trying to stop a fleeing driver. The deadly crash shut down State Route 516 for several hours.

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by Hagen View Post
                          Wow, didn't expect this thread to come to life again. Thanks for the replies! The most unexpected info was from Rudy that some American departments still permit to shoot the tires. I sincerely thought our country is the last place where it's still done.

                          Oh yes, and the timber-interdiction technique too, that one I never even heard about
                          Our policy says we shouldn't shoot at moving vehicles but not that it's forbidden.

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                          • #15
                            I was listening to a chase today in Eastern Iowa where the various agencies (including 2 sheriff's Offices, the State Troopers and one city agency) were attempting to stop a car. At least 3 attempts with spike strips were used resulting in 2 trooper cars being spiked before the suspect FINALLY hit the strip on the 4th attempt.
                            One police car also ran out of gas duirng the 30 minute or so chase. It was a 120 or so mph chase..............
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