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  • BSO6531
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    Originally posted by chowner View Post
    Why all the arrogance do you all respond in such matters when asked this question to face or just when you are hiding behind a computer screen?

    Sorry I asked the question I guess I am better of just complying to anything I am told.
    Now that last sentence there is the correct anwser! And we dont have to hide behind computers, we have to anwser these questions from citizens just as understanding as you EVERY DAY.

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  • t150vsuptpr
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    Originally posted by chowner View Post
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    Originally posted by ray8285
    The officer did not CHOOSE the location of the stop, the driver of the car he pulled over did. A vehicle stop can be very dangerous, I do not know who the person I am dealing with nor if they had just committed a crime. What I don't need is another person I don't know bothering me while I am trying to figure out who this other person is.
    Also, how do you know it was for speeding? Just because we pull someone over does not mean it was for a traffic violation.
    As you have state a vehicle stop is very dangerous hence by having it on my property the officer has not only himself to worry about but also me and my family at this point.

    I respect cops but I also demand respect for my family and their wellbeing.
    And you, your family, and the officer would have been far safer had you just stayed in your humble abode and not gone out there sticking your nose in his duisness and posing a potentially fatal distraction in the process. As pointed out, the officer followed the violator there. I don't think the officer lacked respect for you or your family nor did he lack concern for their safety, he just wanted you to get the **** out of his way and to let him finish the stop or determine his next step ASAP without distration.

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  • j706
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    Hey cooter-whooops I meant chawder-sorry what ever you call yourself, what did you REALLY expect the officer to do? I guess you figured that he should walk up to the car and say " sir-cooter wants us to leave his property so could you back up and pull over on the roadside". " Man " this guy is a trip!! If that would have happened with me, well I would not have been even a little bit nice.
    Last edited by j706; 06-27-2007, 12:05 AM. Reason: spelling

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  • GatorPD
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    Wow, somoene has some personal issues they really need to work on.

    What is the point of dragging up this thread after it had sat for nearly 2 months?

    There are certain people out there, and you are just one of them, who innately think that they are the center of the universe and think they have the right to cry and whine when told what to do.

    In all reality, you created an even more hazardous situation, and INCREASED the chances of danger to you and your home, by getting in the middle of something that was none of your business. What if the driver was about to shoot the cop, saw you come outside, and shot you instead? What if he tried to escape and ran you over?

    Bottom line though to answer your question of "why can he do that" is cause the supreme court said so. I'm not going to waste my time digging up the exact court case for you, but if you really are as worried about this as you say, go to www.findlaw.com and look it up yourself.

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  • mdrdep
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    Chowner was lucky this didn't happen in a violent neighborhood, where it is very common for us to face ambush situations. Or minus that in any neighborhood, if either he or the driver suddenly turned violent. I would have immediatley grabbed him. Sunk him in the back seat, gotten several more units and done a protective sweep of his residence, detaining all inside until I was sure there was not a threat.

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  • Cypher69
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    I will answer your questions from your 1st post

    Originally posted by chowner View Post

    A while ago an officer pulled over some for speeding on my street and the speeder pulled into my driveway and the officer pulled in behind him.
    This is legal. The officer can follow him since he stopped in your driveway.

    Originally posted by chowner View Post
    Concerned about a possible altercation I went out and kindly asked the officer to take this somewhere other than my property.
    The officer has a legal right to be in your driveway at this point, and at this point you are obstructing the officer. And it would be unsafe and unreasonable for the officer to have the person move off your property to finish the traffic stop.

    Originally posted by chowner View Post
    Upon doing so the officer got very vulgar with me and told me that if I didn't return to my home he would have to charge me with Obstruction of Justice
    If he was vulgar, it can be considered unprofessional, but not illegal. The officer informed you that you were commiting a crime, and he gave you the opportunity to go back inside so he didn't have to arrest you for it.

    Originally posted by chowner View Post
    I told him I didn't feel this was the case as this is my property its my right to protect it and at this point he is trespassing as I had asked him to leave.
    As previously covered, you were in the wrong here, you were committing a crime, and the officer had a legal reason to be in your driveway. The officer was not tresspassing, and you can ask him to leave, but he doesn't have to.

    Originally posted by chowner View Post
    He then became more vulgar. I said fine whatever and went back inside a few mins later they were gone and luckily nothing happened.
    Once again, can be considered unprofessional, but not illegal. Most officers usually step it up once you ignore their directives.

    Originally posted by chowner View Post
    Do you feel as if this Officer handle himself in the correct manner?
    Yes I feel as if he did.

    Originally posted by chowner View Post
    Was it to unreasonable that I ask him to leave my property which they were trespassing on ?
    Yes it was unreasonable that you asked him to leave your property. He had a legal right to be there.

    Originally posted by chowner View Post
    How would of you dealt with this situation?
    I would have done everything the same, except I would have arrested you after you failed to comply the first time.

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  • Queens Cowboy
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    Chowner,
    You are a little troll with far too much time on your hands. Boo Hoo...the bad police man came on my property and stayed for 5 minutes when I didn't want him to...your argument that he put you and your family in danger is BS as well. You put yourself in danger by coming out of your home and interfering with this officer while he was conducting a traffic stop. You're lucky he didn't arrest you for obstruct police officer and put you in the back of his car after you didn't heed his intial warning.

    My advice..get a life so you're not so concerned with such a non event.
    Last edited by Queens Cowboy; 06-26-2007, 04:27 PM.

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  • pujolsfan146
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    Originally posted by chowner View Post
    Had this question on my mind for quite sometime and after running across this forum thought this would be a good place to pose this question.

    A while ago an officer pulled over some for speeding on my street and the speeder pulled into my driveway and the officer pulled in behind him. Concerned about a possible altercation I went out and kindly asked the officer to take this somewhere other than my property. Upon doing so the officer got very vulgar with me and told me that if I didn't return to my home he would have to charge me with Obstruction of Justice I told him I didn't feel this was the case as this is my property its my right to protect it and at this point he is trespassing as I had asked him to leave. He then became more vulgar. I said fine whatever and went back inside a few mins later they were gone and luckily nothing happened.

    Do you feel as if this Officer handle himself in the correct manner? Was it to unreasonable that I ask him to leave my property which they were trespassing on ?

    How would of you dealt with this situation?

    Thanks
    You are not at all concerned about safety. If you were you would have never went outside. This is the common, I hate the police I don't want them on my property so I will come up with some excuse to get them off. You saw this as an opportunity to try and put the police in their place. If an altercation took place it would have been because you were distracting the officer from doing his job and in the process the driver of the vehicle tried to take advantage of it.

    Yes the officer handled it correctly. If that was me you would have got one opportunity to go back into your house then I would have arrested you.

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  • mcguire4
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    you are truly an idiot...it's about time someone said it....wait up ex ComptonCop.....

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  • TX Heat
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    Originally posted by chowner View Post
    As you have state a vehicle stop is very dangerous hence by having it on my property the officer has not only himself to worry about but also me and my family at this point.

    I respect cops but I also demand respect for my family and their wellbeing.
    Exactly. Since he's busy trying to contain the stop to your driveway he doesn't know if you're coming out to interfere or what your intentions are. So he gets you inside and handles the stop and goes. You made it more dangerous for the officer and I'm sure he didn't like dealing with two situations at once. He didn't pick the place to stop, the violator did. How is that showing disrespect for you or your family.
    Violators often pull into their driveway or someone elses if they plan on running or getting a bunch of friends and family out to interfere so they can get away on foot.
    He doesn't know your intentions, he has a red flag violator (red flag by pulling into a driveway where someone else comes out and wants everyone gone) and two problems to deal with at once, both potentially (in his eyes) dangerous.
    Let the cop do his job and he'll be glad to explain to you when he done I'm sure.

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  • DetectorAz
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    Originally posted by SgtScott31 View Post
    Since he likes to send private messages, but refuses to be able to receive them, I will post my response here:

    99% of law enforcement are law abiding citizens who do their best to protect those they serve. The only thing you seem to do on this forum is harp on the negative publicity that the media tries to dig up. Good things that police officers do every minute of every hour of every day go unnoticed; the only time something good is said about law enforcement officers is after they have died protecting people like you. Sir, you are a joke and I am done with you.
    Excellent Response. I think all LEO's should place hm on ignore.

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  • SgtScott31
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    Since he likes to send private messages, but refuses to be able to receive them, I will post my response here:

    99% of law enforcement are law abiding citizens who do their best to protect those they serve. The only thing you seem to do on this forum is harp on the negative publicity that the media tries to dig up. Good things that police officers do every minute of every hour of every day go unnoticed; the only time something good is said about law enforcement officers is after they have died protecting people like you. Sir, you are a joke and I am done with you.

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  • Jiu-Jitsu Cop
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    I just read this thread. It seems like everyone is arguing with a 12 year old. He is an angry person who is just loooking for conflict.

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  • chaser266
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    Occasionally I meet citizens that invite me to stop by their house to use the bathroom or have some coffee when I'm in their neighborhood. I also meet people that give police a very cold reception, even when the police are just trying to do their jobs. Which of these two personalities would you prefer to have in your community? Discuss amongst yourselves.

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  • VACOP1
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    PHP Code:
    All these responses are real mature and show your true colors 
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    And what colors are those Chowder.

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