LAPD equipment question

[gonzo1510]

I know I posted this question in another forum, but I wasn't getting any answers so I thought I would try it here.


I am applying with the LAPD and know that they restricted the use of long flashlights like the Streamlight SL-20 because they could be used as a striking weapon.

Did the department completely restrict the use of the Streamlight SL-20 to officers who already had them prior the Stanley Miller Incident?

If so, what are the new officers allowed to use ? Can they use the polycarbonate version of the same flashlight ?

Also, I have seen officers wearing the Glock with the flashlight attached, is this allowed for all officers or is it for specialized units only ?

Thanks...

[CPhil555]

the newest regulation is that officers can only use flashlights made of non-metal material and cannot exceed 6 inches in length.

[Kieth M.]

Did the department completely restrict the use of the Streamlight SL-20 to officers who already had them prior the Stanley Miller Incident?

Also, I have seen officers wearing the Glock with the flashlight attached, is this allowed for all officers or is it for specialized units only ?

I continue to use my Mag-Charger heavy metal flashlight...and get to do so, right up to the moment they issue me my new flashlight. I was promised it in March, now it looks like April......maybe, May?

I am a patrol sergeant. I roll with a tac-light attached to my Glock 21.

[Five-0fromSoCal]

I dont understand their reason for the new policy. If I'm justified to use my flashlight, I'm justified to use my baton. The flashlight is just a weapon of necessity. Of course there will be more force with flashlights than batons. Thats why our dept trains recruits how to use their flashlights as an impact weapon when needed out of necessity.

[Kieth M.]

I dont understand their reason for the new policy. If I'm justified to use my flashlight, I'm justified to use my baton. The flashlight is just a weapon of necessity. Of course there will be more force with flashlights than batons. Thats why our dept trains recruits how to use their flashlights as an impact weapon when needed out of necessity.

In thirty+ years with LAPD, not once have they held a formalized flashlight-as-impact-weapon training session. We talk about it and maybe written about it, only, but we've never use blue-colored rubber-training flashlights against bags/training dummies under supervision of the Training Division Staff/Divisional Training Coordinators. If they had, at any time, incorporated two hours of hands-on training, and set out clear cut rules (support hand use, only) it might be a whole different deal. Why they didn't absolutely amazes me, still.

The morning I watched, live on TV, the Miller/Hatfield incident, I knew Hatfield would be terminated, that Miller would be paid a hefty sum to count while he was in jail, and that both my issued Streamlight, and my personally purchased Mag Charger would become my off-duty/retirement flashlights.

And here's a prediction for you...I see plenty of cops, myself included, carrying these 4+ inch bladed, single-handed opening tactical-type knives, ready for action. Where's the training program for those? Mark my words, the day some cop seriously cuts/kills a suspect with a knife, politically correct, or even just plain pragmatic police department(s) will run for cover, trying to fix the 'police-armed-with-knives problem' that the media will cook up.

[gonzo1510]

And here's a prediction for you...I see plenty of cops, myself included, carrying these 4+ inch bladed, single-handed opening tactical-type knives, ready for action. Where's the training program for those? Mark my words, the day some cop seriously cuts/kills a suspect with a knife, politically correct, or even just plain pragmatic police department(s) will run for cover, trying to fix the 'police-armed-with-knives problem' that the media will cook up.

Not to get off the topic here but does anyone here subscribe to American Cop magazine ?

Reason I ask is because they just did an article on officers/deputies carrying knives os any kind.. I thought it was really informative.

[ask80]

http://officer.com/article/article.jsp?id=35510&siteSection=1

i guess here's the new LAPD flashlight