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  • Who has a wider range of career paths? State, county, or local police departments?

    Specifically meaning other jobs besides Patrol such as detective, SWAT, Etc....

    And when I say state, I mean State Police

  • #2
    It all depends on the local agency and budgets. State agencies vary in thier scope and function. What exactly are you interested in? Do you want to start in patrol, work your way into investigations and then into other specialized units?
    Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.
    President Ronald Reagan

    All we ask is to be let alone.
    President Jefferson Davis

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    • #3
      Originally posted by westside popo View Post
      It all depends on the local agency and budgets. State agencies vary in thier scope and function. What exactly are you interested in? Do you want to start in patrol, work your way into investigations and then into other specialized units?
      Yes for me I would probably like to hit the streets for a few years then move into investigations as a potential next step. I just started the application process for the Louisiana State police. but as a second option I am looking at a local police department in south Louisiana.

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      • #4
        I believe that USMS has the widest range of career paths. They protect courts, assist state and county agencies on various task forces, protect and relocate witnesses as well as a variety of other functions.
        Getting shot hurts! Don't under estimate the power of live ammo. A .22LR can kill you! I personally feel that it's best to avoid being shot by any caliber. Your vest may stop the bullet, but you'll still get a nice bruise or other injury to remember the experience.

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        • #5
          Having retired from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Dept there are very few agencies that offer the vast assortment of duty assignments as LASD. Custody, patrol, numerous detective units, court services, prisoner transportation, SWAT, Emergency services detail, Training bureau, drivers training, research and development numerous specialized task forces, working with Interpol, Operations and fleet management and many more...
          Retired LASD

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Retired96 View Post
            Having retired from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Dept there are very few agencies that offer the vast assortment of duty assignments as LASD. Custody, patrol, numerous detective units, court services, prisoner transportation, SWAT, Emergency services detail, Training bureau, drivers training, research and development numerous specialized task forces, working with Interpol, Operations and fleet management and many more...
            NYPD would be one that rivals LASD / LAPD for wide range of assignments.
            Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

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            • #7
              Excellent points made by all above. At the end of the day, though, here are a couple of things that really matter:

              -If you are looking for a cop job, you need the agency to hire you.

              -Lots of varied assignments are great, but if you find you really like K-9 work, for example, maybe it won't matter all that much where you do it.

              -I have seen some officers/deputies really have no idea what they will ultimately want to do in their future carers, until they get some relevant experience. You might find you really like patrol and want to remain there. Or, you might put up with it long enough to make a change!

              -Some assignments very few agencies will have. For example, aviation units, In Minnesota, it's the Minnesota State Patrol. There simply aren't any city or county aviation units here.

              Some people have grandiose ideas what investigators do, Then, they get the gig and find out that it really isn't what they want. On the other hand, some places that rotate investigators, will lose folks to other agencies after they rotate back to patrol and really miss investigative work.
              Last edited by Jim1648; 12-07-2017, 04:40 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Iowa #1603 View Post

                NYPD would be one that rivals LASD / LAPD for wide range of assignments.
                LASD does in fact have many more assignments than LAPD
                Retired LASD

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                • #9
                  I would argue that LASD has MORE diversity in roles. Yes NYPD has more spots... but they don’t work the jails, courts, or serve court paperwork like LASD does. They also don’t do contract policing.
                  semper destravit

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                  • BNWS
                    BNWS commented
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                    THe NYPD has a court division. They staff the central booking facilities. Not a highly sought after gig and usually where you end up while waiting for your charges to be adjudicated. As for contract policing the closest the NYPD comes is providing cops for the Transit and housing authority when those agencies police departments where absorbed. There is a civil enforcement unit but they mostly deal with nuisence loctions like rowdy bars and nightclubs. Used to be referred to as the padlock unit. Nothing on the scale of a big sheriff agency civil enforcement.

                  • RGDS
                    RGDS commented
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                    You don’t have contract policing. Maybe back when each of those (transit and Public Housing) were stand alone agencies but not now. It’s basically the only thing you guys DONT have.

                    I totally missed the “waited for your charges to adjudicate”. WOW. You probably aren’t joking or being sarcastic either.
                    Last edited by RGDS; 12-12-2017, 12:26 AM.

                • #10
                  Originally posted by saintcajun78 View Post

                  Yes for me I would probably like to hit the streets for a few years then move into investigations as a potential next step. I just started the application process for the Louisiana State police. but as a second option I am looking at a local police department in south Louisiana.
                  Our guy implies that he wants to stay in Louisiana. That leaves the State, or the largest cities, for the broadest range of assignments. County Sheriffs Offices also handle the Process service, Jails and Court security (bailiffs), and executions of civil court orders... like evictions, writs, Domestic Injunctions, etc.

                  Best to do your homework on agencies you might be interested in. Go out and talk to a few officers.
                  When the manure hits the fan, it's never evenly distributed.

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by RGDS View Post
                    I would argue that LASD has MORE diversity in roles. Yes NYPD has more spots... but they don’t work the jails, courts, or serve court paperwork like LASD does. They also don’t do contract policing.
                    I said RIVALS.........not exceeds

                    NYPD does a lot of dignitary jobs & has a lo t of overseas / out of country intelligence assignments that other agencies don't do

                    It isn't a shlong contest.................those large agencies just have more assignment types
                    Last edited by Iowa #1603; 12-07-2017, 07:02 PM.
                    Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

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                    • BNWS
                      BNWS commented
                      Editing a comment
                      Because of the location of the UN the NYPD handles the bulk of the dignitaries coming into NYC. The feds reimbuse the city.. On most days there a certain amount of detectives pulled from their regular assignments and sent on dignitary escorts. There are dinitaries who reside in the city that have a steady detail from the intel division.

                  • #12
                    True, but those aren’t real cop jobs. That’s intel work, the NYPD’s own little CIA....

                    they dont carry while in those assignments unless they are TFO’ed to DS, right?
                    semper destravit

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                    • #13
                      Originally posted by saintcajun78 View Post

                      Yes for me I would probably like to hit the streets for a few years then move into investigations as a potential next step. I just started the application process for the Louisiana State police. but as a second option I am looking at a local police department in south Louisiana.
                      Unless Lousiana State Police have their own investigators you may want to consider county or municipal agencies. I don't know enough about Lousiana to give a better answer.

                      Something else to consider is, smaller agencies may have you work patrol, conduct investigations, process crime scenes etc. The problem is you may not have a high enough call volume to get efficient at those skills.
                      Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.
                      President Ronald Reagan

                      All we ask is to be let alone.
                      President Jefferson Davis

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                      • #14
                        Originally posted by RGDS View Post
                        True, but those aren’t real cop jobs. That’s intel work, the NYPD’s own little CIA....

                        they dont carry while in those assignments unless they are TFO’ed to DS, right?
                        Who cares if they carry................they are getting paid as a cop, they are earning their pension as a cop and they carry the badge/ ID saying they are cops

                        I know a couple guys who spent a year or two out of country .............and returned to the city with promotions in hand
                        Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                        My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                        • #15
                          Originally posted by Curt5811 View Post

                          Our guy implies that he wants to stay in Louisiana. That leaves the State, or the largest cities, for the broadest range of assignments. County Sheriffs Offices also handle the Process service, Jails and Court security (bailiffs), and executions of civil court orders... like evictions, writs, Domestic Injunctions, etc.

                          Best to do your homework on agencies you might be interested in. Go out and talk to a few officers.
                          Thanks to all, I really appreciate all the input. And to comment on the above advice, I do have a few family members that work for a SD and one who works for Lafayette PD, and he has really been trying to get me to apply with them. So I really have been thinking about this for the last few years and had recently settled on applying with the Louisiana State Police and started the process in late October. I did the pre-qual package and sent that in and was scheduled for my written exam, which I accomplished last week and I'm currently waiting on my results.

                          I may still applying with the Lafayette PD as well as another option. The LSP runs one to two academies a year and that is totally up to the States funding these academies so an academy date may or may not line up with my retirement from the military. The Lafayette PD on the other hand is pretty consistent with hiring and they tend to have a more reliable academy schedule.

                          Both have their pros and cons and I think I would be happy at either department, I'm just trying to set myself up for success in getting hired somewhere prior to my official retirement date of 1 December 2018.

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