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    For someone that works for a local Police Dept. in Georgia(wherever really).

    Where can you NOT carry your firearm when your off-duty?
    Federal buildings?
    Professional sports events?
    Clubs/Bars?
    Or what?

    Just curious as my 2 of my LE friends say different things.
    Last edited by FutureLE; 12-22-2005, 08:29 PM.

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    casino's...
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    • #3
      Originally posted by nasa808
      casino's...

      I worded it wrong, I should have said "Where can you NOT carry?"

      Thanks

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      • #4
        As far as where can you NOT carry. You can not carry in jails or some courtrooms. Most courts allow offciers to carry but sometimes it is restricted. Airplanes (unless authorized by letter) That's pretty much it for NOT ALLOWED to carry in.

        NOW if your talking where you can't carry .......... mostly private property stuff. Bars, casinos, theme parks, clubs, etc.... They can't tell you not to carry but they don't have to let you in either. Your allowed to carry but just can't come in (off duty that is)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FutureLE
          Where can you NOT carry your firearm when your off-duty?
          As a police officer, anywhere I can not carry while I'm on duty. Which is any place that didn't request your presence and asks you to leave you firearm behind. Court rooms where a judge is presiding, and any place designated by the State or Sheriff as a "Guard line" (which is basically jails and prisons)

          Originally posted by FutureLE
          Federal buildings?
          Technically, that's a federal statute. My rule has always been "carry it unless someone asks you not to, and then turn around a leave".

          Originally posted by FutureLE
          Professional sports events?
          Clubs/Bars?
          Or what?
          Why not?

          However if I plan on drinking more than two beverages, I leave the weapon in my car or at home. Bad idea to be armed and booze it up.

          Originally posted by FutureLE
          Just curious as my 2 of my LE friends say different things.
          Well they need to know the law if they are going to be LE.
          You have no right to not be offended.-Neal Boortz

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Centurion44
            As a police officer, anywhere I can not carry while I'm on duty. Which is any place that didn't request your presence and asks you to leave you firearm behind. Court rooms where a judge is presiding, and any place designated by the State or Sheriff as a "Guard line" (which is basically jails and prisons)



            Technically, that's a federal statute. My rule has always been "carry it unless someone asks you not to, and then turn around a leave".



            Why not?

            However if I plan on drinking more than two beverages, I leave the weapon in my car or at home. Bad idea to be armed and booze it up.



            Well they need to know the law if they are going to be LE.

            Thanks, I just got to thinking the other night when I went to the Falcons game and they did a "pat-down" when you enter the Dome.

            My friend only disagreed on the Federal building thing.. but your right they should both know the facts.

            How do you carry your weapon? Concealed on waist, leg or what? Just curious again

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            • #7
              Originally posted by FutureLE
              Thanks, I just got to thinking the other night when I went to the Falcons game and they did a "pat-down" when you enter the Dome.

              My friend only disagreed on the Federal building thing.. but your right they should both know the facts.

              How do you carry your weapon? Concealed on waist, leg or what? Just curious again
              Who was doing the pat-downs? If it was the local PD or even a Security guard, you need to advise them that you are off-duty and that you have your weapon on you, so that you don't get your a@@ jumped.
              "An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by irishlad2nv
                Who was doing the pat-downs? If it was the local PD or even a Security guard, you need to advise them that you are off-duty and that you have your weapon on you, so that you don't get your a@@ jumped.

                It was Georgia Dome security.

                BTW--Im not LE, but I will be after I start/finish the academy. While they were doing the patdowns, I was curious if it was legal for LE to carry in the Dome or other social events.

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                • #9
                  Well that will depend on your departments policy. However, if you are going to a social event: i.e. a bar, club or anyplace where you will be consuming alcohol, I would not carry. However, sporting events, etc, I always carry.
                  "An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by OCGA 16-11-127
                    a) Except as provided in Code Section 16-11-127.1, a person is guilty of a misdemeanor when he or she carries to or while at a public gathering any explosive compound, firearm, or knife designed for the purpose of offense and defense.
                    (b) For the purpose of this Code section, 'public gathering' shall include, but shall not be limited to, athletic or sporting events, churches or church functions, political rallies or functions, publicly owned or operated buildings, or establishments at which alcoholic beverages are sold for consumption on the premises. Nothing in this Code section shall otherwise prohibit the carrying of a firearm in any other public place by a person licensed or permitted to carry such firearm by this part.
                    (c) This Code section shall not apply to competitors participating in organized sport shooting events. Law enforcement officers, peace officers retired from state or federal law enforcement agencies, judges, magistrates, solicitors-general, and district attorneys may carry pistols in publicly owned or operated buildings.
                    (d) It is an affirmative defense to a violation of this Code section if a person notifies a law enforcement officer or other person employed to provide security for a public gathering of the presence of such item as soon as possible after learning of its presence and surrenders or secures such item as directed by the law enforcement officer or other person employed to provide security for a public gathering.
                    Hey, look, it's Georgia code!
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                    • #11
                      It depends on your agency or department.

                      Ours will fire anyone carrying in a bar. Unless on duty. And no drinking when you carry.

                      You should familiarize yourself with your rules. This way you know where your agency or department will and will not back you up.

                      Also, Disney Land and I suspect Disney World do not allow officers in with weapons.
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                      • #12
                        FYI, there is a distinction between Federal buildings and Federal courthouses.

                        In Denver:

                        Federal Buildings - OK if on duty or for official business.

                        Federal Courthouses - NO. Only FPS and US Marshals may be armed. All other LEOs (including all other Fed LEOs) must lock up at the entrance.

                        This may vary nationwide, as it's up to the chief judge of the complex. A few months ago, the local PDs repsonded to an EMS call in one of the courthouses. They were required to disarm prior to entry. Unfortunately, the lady died of a heart attack.
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                        • #13
                          I carry everywhere off duty and it is expected of us - with star and ID. I make sure everything stays concealed and I haven't had any problems yet. Any time there has been a possibility of a pat down or other security check I have ID'd myself and that was all it took. For instance, I had to go to the federal building in Bangor the other day and they had the metal detector operating so I advised security that I was off duty and armed and all they did was ask to see my department ID and then they let me through.

                          The only time I have gone unarmed in years was 3 weeks ago when I went to Jamaica. I locked my gun in the glove box when I got to the airport and spent 8 days at a resort without a care in the world. When we got home I went straight out to the car, got my gun and went back into the airport to get our luggage.

                          Also, as a general rule I don't drink when I am carrying although, like Centurian44, there have been times when I have and when I do I also impose a 2 drink limit on myself.

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                          • #14
                            This is kind of a statement and kind of a question: in some locales, a property owner (e.g. private business) can refuse entry to anyone that they choose, as long as they aren't violating civil rights laws. That means that they can refuse to admit an off duty officer carrying a firearm, if they choose (I'm not referring to on-duty issues - obviously, you go where you need to go, and if someone doesn't like the gun, that's their problem). For instance, Disney properties will not knowingly admit anyone except an on-duty LE officer who is carrying a firearm. If they discover that you're carrying, your options are to secure it with the security department, or leave. Does anyone have similar policies/problems like this where they work?
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                            • #15
                              I will usually not say anything unless I am going into a place where they check.

                              The empire state building is one.... We walked in armed, found the first Officer we could find and stated the 4 of us where armed we just wanted to take a picture in the lobby since we knew we couldn't go to the top... The Officer took us in a back way and brought us to the top, No charge, No Line, No Hassle. Now I have heard others say, they weren't even let into the building... So it is kind of a hit a miss sometimes... But it is better for the On Duty Officers to know your LE and Armed then for them to find out on there own... I know I wouldn't like that!!
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