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    Well if you've read i've been having issues with my academy director. Apparently she won... because I was just kicked out completly today, on yet another false accusation. Somehow she is getting written documents saying these things are true but I see now way no how things could be true??
    They escorted me out of the college (by escort I mean 2 police officers, a security guard, and my two "drill instructors). Now this is pretty bad as is right? Well someone in my class told the director that I carry a firearm in my car. So she asked me if I had a firearm in my car. I said no I don't own one?! She stated someone in my class said I did..and asked me if they were lying (VERY smart *** question as well) She said they told her I had a weapon on school campus. I said no ma'am. Something did happen where my ex left his DUTY WEAPON in the glovebox of my car. We went out and he secured it there and apparently we both forgot about it. I was asked to pop my hatch of my car so I went to my glovebox to see if the key was there and.. oops there was the gun..
    Well.. we all get out to my car and one of my drill instructors says "well since you said you don't have a gun in your car you wont mind us searching it then right?" Wow.. dig that knife a LITTLE deaper please.. I said no sir go ahead (I was polite the ENTIRE time so I don't screw myself)
    Imagen that.. they didn't find anything..

    Well I want to be a LEO.. no matter what.. I've had times where I've had to step back and ask myself is the drama really worth it? Because I swear my class was like being back in highschool. Everyone talked behind everyones back and then I was told I wasn't part of the "group" and i'm too distant from the others.. hmm... wonder why? I was close to a few people, the ones mature enough to express any issues with other classmates.

    Ok my point is: I'm not giving up on this. And my dad isn't going to just shrugg off the fact this woman has done this and we are trying to get it investigated. If it works then great maybe they will let me go to another college and finish the TWO classes I have left (yea today we started our last block of instruction..imagen that...). If not then I'm thinking of either moving back to VA where they will hire you before you have to go to the academy (I can't STAND not having an income right now) or i'll suck it up and try the academy again here in Jan.

    In NC you have to have a police department sponsor you for you to go into BLET (basic law enforcement) Well my agency adores me and wanted to hire me. They even knew I wanted a job right out of school and they couldn't hire me untill next year so they helped me get in line for a job at another local PD. They have done SO much for me.. When they found out my graduation would be later in the year they said thats ok and that they will have an opening for me in Jan. So I know they will always put a good word in for me. And frankly they know me a LOT better than this director. Heck I think i've only seen the director maybe 6 times!! She doesn't even know what class we are in or where we will be for gods sake.

    So back to the question. Am I screwd since I was kicked out of the academy already? I can only imagen how bad it looks!! And in all reality I busted my BUTT to do good here.. I mean I had above a 90% avg.. I did keep to myself a lot but I really don't like to be in the middle of gossip and talking behind peoples back.. just isn't my thing.
    Why she did this to ME i'm not sure. I know she found out I contacted the Justice Academy about the previous happenings..

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    Read carefully this extremely long thread and be honest. What do you think the answer really is ?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bodie
      Read carefully this extremely long thread and be honest. What do you think the answer really is ?
      I think I SHOULD have a chance. As honest as I can ever be I swear i'm not anything like this woman is trying to put me as. I do swear but only when I get excited.. and latley i've been anything but that.
      I've never been disrespectfull to an officer or to a teacher, so why would I start now with my officer instructor? Doesn't fit.

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      • #4
        Bro, if you got kicked out. I don't care if the department that so much "ADORES" you makes a call to the gov.himself, I think you are pretty much done, unless you can get entered back in somehow. But to me...as Brodie state...what do you think?
        "An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by irishlad2nv
          Bro, if you got kicked out. I don't care if the department that so much "ADORES" you makes a call to the gov.himself, I think you are pretty much done, unless you can get entered back in somehow. But to me...as Brodie state...what do you think?

          I can go to another school, i'll just have to retake the entire thing again. Or I can move back to VA and go to school there.
          Also i'm not a "bro".

          I guess i'll just have to try to get my named cleared. If it doesn't work then I know I have other options I guess. Apparently asking online doesn't help since no one knows how I really am. The people who actually know me and take the time to talk to me know good and well all this was bs.

          Just really sucks to put your all into something just to be kicked down by someone. I don't know why she chose me? Unless she or someone close to her reads these boards (I did have my name and location on here). Then I know why she did it.
          But as i've always said, nothing or no one will come between me and my dream of being a good officer.

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          • #6
            Do I still have a chance?

            Knowing neither you, or your Academy Director, it's impossible for me to say who's right or wrong in this issue. We've heard your side of the story thus far, and maybe it's not all the story. What you disclose to us is your business of course. Here's the bottom line as I see it. No matter how much your department thinks of you, you're going to have to be certified, and that means completing the Academy.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TeayotaSoupra
              Am I screwd since I was kicked out of the academy already? I can only imagen how bad it looks!! And in all reality I busted my BUTT to do good here.. I mean I had above a 90% avg.............I know she found out I contacted the Justice Academy about the previous happenings..
              Not completely screwed, but its gonna be hard. I would not offer employment if you were kicked out a program.

              You do not have to have a sponsor at all BLET community colleges. You will if they have a full class of sponsored students though. I went through in 96 w/o a sponsor.
              What is it about, "Thou shalt not.....", do some people not understand?
              Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

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              • #8
                Since you told them you had no gun and it turns out you did, they think you lied. If you got kicked out for lying you have little to no chance of being hired. Sorry.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TeayotaSoupra
                  I can go to another school, i'll just have to retake the entire thing again. Or I can move back to VA and go to school there.
                  Also i'm not a "bro".

                  I guess i'll just have to try to get my named cleared. If it doesn't work then I know I have other options I guess. Apparently asking online doesn't help since no one knows how I really am. The people who actually know me and take the time to talk to me know good and well all this was bs.

                  Just really sucks to put your all into something just to be kicked down by someone. I don't know why she chose me? Unless she or someone close to her reads these boards (I did have my name and location on here). Then I know why she did it.
                  But as i've always said, nothing or no one will come between me and my dream of being a good officer.

                  There are two sides two every story and it seems like you have a bad attitude toward others with your response to the BRO thing. You said that you had no idea that there was a firearm in your glove box. hmmm how is that you drive the vehicle around and have no idea that there is a firearm.

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                  • #10
                    I didn't lie about the firearm. I never had it on school campus.

                    My ex boyfriend put it in my car when we were out driving around. I don't keep up with his stuff and I had no idea it was still in my glovebox. :shruggs:

                    And how was I rude to someone calling me bro? I'm not one? How else should I have typed it?

                    I'm sorry?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TeayotaSoupra
                      I didn't lie about the firearm. I never had it on school campus.

                      My ex boyfriend put it in my car when we were out driving around. I don't keep up with his stuff and I had no idea it was still in my glovebox. :shruggs:

                      And how was I rude to someone calling me bro? I'm not one? How else should I have typed it?

                      I'm sorry?
                      Ok, so now I'm confused. If you didn't get kicked out for having a gun in your car what did you get kicked out for?

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                      • #12
                        You are responsible for the contents in your vehicle ("care and control").

                        Why would you allow your ex to put his gun in your car? That's just bizarre. I wouldn't want anything to do with my exes - ESPECIALLY if they were packing heat!

                        You have a very uphill battle ahead of you. Taking your story at face value, and believing 100% everything you said, you STILL have a very uphill battle.

                        In the end, you should've known your vehicle's contents. It was a mistake on your part, but firearm safety is no joke, and they'll stick it to you.

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                        • #13
                          Me getting kicked out had nothing to do with a gun in my car. And he wasn't an ex at the time of this happening. He carrys his duty weapon just about everywhere. And if his shirt wont cover it up he leaves it in the car. It was an accident. But again, had nothing to do with why I was kicked out.

                          Supposably I was reported a FEW times to have disrespected my intructors. Well ONE time doing this would be enough to kick me out. She didn't even pull me aside to talk to me during this supposably first time I got reported.. I asked which officers I disrespected and she told me a few names. So I called them to tell them i'm sorry for anything I might have done that would have disrespected them, that in no way did I ever meen to.. Well the two officers I did get a hold of said they had no problems with me. That I was a good student.. One said he did make a comment that the entire class is young and immature (we were because he was joking around with us, naturally we joked back. I mean come on, when you tell one student he has DSLs.. lol) But he's a real cool teacher.

                          Ok so that was the first time she talked to me and warned me.. She also had me kicked out of one of the classes so there was no way I could graduate with my class. (there is a little bit more to that and I already posted it)

                          Well she let me go through half of the day on Sat..then when we got back to class to start our LAST block of instruction for the class.. She had me come into her office.. Apparently a few days ago a female who was not part of the program complaind that I offended her by my foul language... Yea no way. #1 there were only two females there that day. One was an officer and one was a woman there to take home her daughter that was a role player. The entire night I said little to nothing. I sat in the chair when I wasn't doing my pratical and I might have talked to the woman a few times about her daughter and kids these days. I know for a FACT I never had an outburst of bad language.. normally that takes getting me very worked up.

                          It's just odd nothing was said to me EVER untill a few weeks before we are to graduate. After the first thing was said to me I kept to myself and was just there to get my classes done and just graduate when I could.

                          I talked to my sponsoring agency and things are NOT going to be easy. But if I want to be a LEO i'm going to have to keep on with this situation.. I don't want to go into details but it's really going to suck

                          This is my dream.. This is all I can see myself doing. I'm not going to give up..
                          This hurts so bad.. I have spent almost 6 months of my life putting everything i have into this. I've been cussed at by our "drill instructors" which they did this outside of the college around all the students and such.. Our teachers cussed with no issues.. another student can't tell someone to get down without throwing a FEW cuss words into the sentance. One of our guys told the drill instructor off and he even yelled at the director that she was lied and everything was BS.. Yet I get kicked out??? I HATE doing this and saying "he did this, she did that" but my god if it's the only way I can clear my name.. I'm going to do it.

                          It's sad it comes down to this.

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                          • #14
                            My fellow LEO's-

                            Is it just me or does the tone of her post reflect the "it's not my fault/it's a conspiracy" lament we often hear?

                            IMO you have no shot at be hired. I cannot imagine any professionally run PD that would hire you over all other applicants who have a lot less baggage.
                            Disclaimer: The writer does not represent any organization, employer, entity or other individual. The first amendment protected views/commentary/opinions/satire expressed are those only of the writer. In the case of a sarcastic, facetious, nonsensical, stirring-the-pot, controversial or devil's advocate-type post, the views expressed may not even reflect those of the writer.

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                            • #15
                              Hmmm...sounds tough. From what I read, I would try and get into another BLET program somewhere else. It sounds like you have had nothing but problems with this specific program. If it something you really want to do, keep at it and keep trying. Here is some advice though:

                              1. DO NOT joke with your instructors!!!! Even if they smile at you or joke, do not joke back. Especially since you are a female...you joke and shmooze, you are going to get a bad rep.

                              2. Have some "military bearing". Meaning no cursing, laughing, joking. Keep it yes sir or yes ma'am. It isnt military boot camp, but it ain't the community college either. You are training to be a LEO and whether it is on the state or county level, every program usually incorporates some kinda of military style. You already stand out b/c you are considered a minority, don't draw unecessary attention to yourself by joking with instructors and getting tickets on your off-time. Everyone is entitled to a mistake, but be sure not to do it again.

                              3. I am not sure how they do it in BLET. I went through HP Training and it is real different. Take your training seriously, obviously try and be friendly, but keep the "jokin and smokin" until after the class. Study hard, do everything they ask of you, and stay beneath the radar. Cursing is part of LE. Instructors are going to curse, deal with it. Mind you, you are a student, so save the bad words until a rainy day.

                              If I were you, I would try and get into another program maybe in an adjoining county. Do the above, and you should have no problem getting through. It is not worth it to invest your time and money into a program that has it out for you. Good luck!
                              "...I'd never let you down, even if I could. I'd give up everything if only for your good..." 3 Doors Down

                              "Strength is when your body gives out and your heart and your mind take over"

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